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Who would you cast as Drizz't? (Tiger Shroff Bollywood martial artist)

Considering what the black actors did in Black Panther, both with and without stunt doubles, any of those actors would be good for a black character like Drizz't. I just do not think they can do a positive job with Drizz't, or any Drow, with their skin being so unnaturally black. Just look at the cover for MToF and how dark they kept the skin of the Drow. Motion capture and CGI may be how they would have to go instead of a traditional actor just to avoid controversy.
 

ardoughter

Explorer
I would agree, that Drow skin is a black not found in natural skin colours and also D&D elves are much more slender then the human norm. There is a lot to be said for going the CGI route.
I really do wonder if a black skinned matriarchal evil race is marketable?
 

Prakriti

Hi, I'm a Mindflayer, but don't let that worry you
During my time on ENWorld, I think I've seen an apostrophe appear in every possible location in "Drizzt."

For the record, it's "Drizzt." No apostrophe. Just "Drizzt." Thank you. :D
 

Eltab

Villager
I really do wonder if a black skinned matriarchal evil race is marketable?
On the other hand, you could work the inevitable social-consciousness-based uproar into the marketing scheme.
We might find out if "any publicity is good publicity".
 

Eltab

Villager
Disney animation characters tend to look like the actors who provide their voice (see Robin Williams and his Genie in Aladdin for an example.) The CGI people could put famous faces into CGI bodies, so we could get almost anybody in a Drow role.

For that matter, we could hire Olympic Fencing medalists to provide the movement data for the (inevitable) swordfight sequences.
 

ccs

39th lv DM
I would agree, that Drow skin is a black not found in natural skin colours and also D&D elves are much more slender then the human norm. There is a lot to be said for going the CGI route.
I really do wonder if a black skinned matriarchal evil race is marketable?
R.A. Salvatore seems to have made a tidy profit....
 

ccs

39th lv DM
On the other hand, you could work the inevitable social-consciousness-based uproar into the marketing scheme.
We might find out if "any publicity is good publicity".
Not that the wailing & gnashing of teeth wouldn't be a great show in & of itself (& probably better than the movie), but HOW would you possibly do that?
 

Eltab

Villager
HOW would you possibly do that?
Somebody with a better grasp of human psychology than I, and probably LN or LE aligned, would be better able to answer that. I can see and predict the rough outlines of the reaction, but I don't know how to manipulate it to achieve a desired end.

(If I were able to manipulate a bunch of self-righteous moralistic people who berate everybody around them and "all society" for imagined moral failings, I would desire that they stay home and be quiet, myself.)
 
I would agree, that Drow skin is a black not found in natural skin colours and also D&D elves are much more slender then the human norm.
Yeah, but makeup could darken to ebony blue, and prosthetics could reshape face (and ears!). Tiger Shroff from India has a graceful form.

Just not some Euro-Caucasian person in black face. And not CGI - agh! CGI works only for monstrous visages (Gollum). CGI for humane faces (unless the whole film is semi-cartoonish CGI) results in the "uncanny valley". "And then Bruenor turns and talks to the creepy cartoon character."

I suggested an Indian actor since there are Black Dravidian roots to the Indian People. A Black African actor and martial artist could be cool too.
 
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ccs

39th lv DM
Yeah, but makeup could darken to ebony blue, and prosthetics could reshape face (and ears!). Tiger Shroff from India has a graceful form.
From the 5e PHB, p.24: "~ Have black skin that resembles polished obsidian ~"
Not ebony blue. Not some shade of brown. BLACK.
(weirdly enough the 5e MM doesn't describe Drow at all.)

Just not some Euro-Caucasian person in black face. And not CGI - agh! CGI works only for monstrous visages (Gollum). CGI for humane faces (unless the whole film is semi-cartoonish CGI) results in the "uncanny valley". "And then Bruenor turns and talks to the creepy cartoon character.".
Yes CGI. Then you pick whichever actors you want - Euro-Caucasian, Indian, African, etc - mold their facial features Elvish, & CGI them obsidian black.
And you make it clear that Drow =/= Human (of any shade).

I suggested an Indian actor since there are Black Dravidian roots to the Indian People. A Black African actor and martial artist could be cool too.
What don't you get? Drow =/= black person.
Maybe if you were trying to film this 50 years ago, or with no budget, you'd have to cast darker skinned people.
But this is 2018 & we have CGI that can paint you whatever colors desired.
 
From the 5e PHB, p.24: "~ Have black skin that resembles polished obsidian ~"
Not ebony blue. Not some shade of brown. BLACK.
okay okay...look...I'm speaking as an artist here. Every kind of black...even the deepest obsidian black...has a specific shade: even "obsidian black" must lean toward "blue-black" or "green-black" or "gray-black". I'm not talking about "blue", that's why I said "ebony-blue" (bluish-black). Drow have sometimes been depicted with a "bluish" (obsidian) black hue. For example, Erol Otus' classic (scroll down the page): http://thedelvers.com/2011/digger-please

this is 2018 & we have CGI that can paint you whatever colors desired.
Maybe, but still I feel the role would be good for a Black or Indian martial artist and actor. Not because of their skin is the shade of a drow, but because of the righteousness of it.
 

Unwise

Villager
During my time on ENWorld, I think I've seen an apostrophe appear in every possible location in "Drizzt."

For the record, it's "Drizzt." No apostrophe. Just "Drizzt." Thank you. :D
Tha'nks for clear'ing that up. It bug's me when pe'ople get that wro'ng.
 

Paul Farquhar

Explorer
With all the fuss made about "whitewashing" at the moment Drizzt is a real can of worms. "Annihilation" was attacked for whitewashing Natalie Portman's character, even though it is only a brief sentence in the sequel novel that mentions that the character is Asian.

The safest bet would probably be to cast someone who is not 100% white AND give him a skin tone that isn't found in humans. Given that a D&D movie is likely to have a limited budget, they would probably want to avoid CGI when makeup can be used. The idea of casting a martial artist is a good one, given the likely budget. Someone who can make the fights look spectacular is more important than having a big Hollywood name.
 

ardoughter

Explorer
R.A. Salvatore seems to have made a tidy profit....
I suspect that the bulk of R.A. Savlatore's sales are to people already familiar with the lore of D&d and I also strongly suspect that the people that would bury a movie for portraying a matriarchal black skinned evil race would not be caught dead within 50m. of a fantasy book.

To pull off a Drow themed movie and not overturn the lore you would have to highlight the alienness of the Drow. I don't any male human (or at least adult male) actor can pull of the gracilieness of Drow, too wide at the shoulders. May be female actors or teenage boys. Go for the black body paint. Red eyes with out iris or pupil, sclera red also. Would also have to continually show the alien nature of social interaction also. Constant dominance and submissive threat behaviour.
 

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