Why _DON'T_ You Buy Dragon Magazine?

[Erik Mona]

TheSigil,

It's not really my place to apologize for something I wasn't involved with in the first place, but I can assure you that I've no intention to print "dirty" words in the magazine during my tenure. I started reading Dragon when I was a wee lad, and see no reason to upset people with this kind of thing. Besides, there are plenty of game-related ways to upset the readers, so I don't really understand the point of gunning for controversy.

Since all the fiction we will be printing in the foreseeable future is tied to the Forgotten Realms or Eberron, the standards shown in those stories will match those of the books published under the same brands--which I'm going to assume means no potty mouth.

--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon

 

[RFisher]

I've offered my suggestions as to how to improve Dragon over the years numerous times. This time, rather than try to analyze things, I'll just say that:

I got much, much, much more use & inspiration out of the magazine in the 1980s than I did after 2000. (I didn't subscribe in the 1990s.)

& I will continue to agree & repeat that there are plenty of better avenues for fiction to be published through. I have indeed enjoyed some of the fiction in Dragon a lot, but I still don't think it belongs there.

 

[jester47]

Its 5 or 6 days and 300 posts later. We can't take it any more! Whats going to happen to the mag?!!!

A.

 

[Eosin the Red]

Its 5 or 6 days and 300 posts later. We can't take it any more! Whats going to happen to the mag?!!!

A.

What he said!

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Hopefully Erik will reply soon. I am almost getting to the point of wondering whether this went heavily in areas that wern't expected and a response is therefore taking longer.

 

[Nellisir]

I would even go so far as to say make your magazine 80% reviews, how-tos, and designer interviews… and 20% new rules content.

Oooo, two thumbs down, down, down.

As you said, there are a ton of review sites online. There is no void to be filled here. Many of the online reviews are amateur, true, but it's usually not that hard to find two or three or four reviews of the same product and look for the common points. Do 3 out of 4 reviews call it bad? Then it's probably bad. And you didn't have to wait a month to find out.

No reviews.

(I'm "eh" on fiction, though. Mostly it's uninteresting, but some of it is really great. I'd love to see Fool Wolf again.)

Cheers
Nell.

 

[coyote6]

Since all the fiction we will be printing in the foreseeable future is tied to the Forgotten Realms or Eberron

In that case, I'll add my vote to the "drop the fiction" pile.

Martin's piece was far, far better than any of the FR fiction I've read. Much the same holds for the Fool Wolf stories (they weren't part of any game setting, IIRC). If the fiction's not going to be really good, I'd rather have more articles.

(I hope a couple of cuss words aren't why we won't be seeing anything but WotC-property-based fiction. I imagine it isn't, but just in case, for the record: I disagree with TheSigil.)

PS: For the record, I do buy Dragon. My subscription runs out in 10 months; I plan on renewing (at least right now; no plan survives contact with reality, right?).

 

[Jeff Wilder]

If Dragon loudly and publicly apologizes for using some of the "seven words," displays a contrite attitude about it ("we apologize to those we have offended and are sorry for our poor reaction to the criticism when it was first raised") AND makes it clear that editorial policy from this time forth will be to edit them from its publications, I'll give you another look.

And I, at that point, will unsubscribe out of sheer disgust.

Gaming is a hobby for mature people, even if they may be young. If people are incapable of handling vulgarity -- and God forbid they recognize those times when its use is valid and even necessary -- then they should probably take up something like doily-making.

D&D is a game about -- among other things -- violence and killing. I find it completely bizarre that the same people who have no problems with extreme violence have problems with a few words, all of which can be heard 2000 times a day at any middle school in the country.

These are the people who forced the removal of "demon" and "devil" from D&D. Cater to them, and you'll lose my business and a significant chunk of my not-inconsiderable disposable income. And I know plenty of gamers who feel the same.

 

[Teflon Billy]

If Dragon loudly and publicly apologizes for using some of the "seven words," displays a contrite attitude about it ("we apologize to those we have offended and are sorry for our poor reaction to the criticism when it was first raised") AND makes it clear that editorial policy from this time forth will be to edit them from its publications, I'll give you another look. Until I have your collective assurance that those words will not be used in my home, however, I see no reason to give you another look.

Wow.

You cancelled (and refuse to reconsider cancelling) your subscription because they used naughty language?

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You play a game that involves killing for treasure.

It doesn't get much naughtier than that.

Edit: looks like Jeff Wilder already addressed this.

 

[Warp Demon]

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These are the people who forced the removal of "demon" and "devil" from D&D. Cater to them, and you'll lose my business and a significant chunk of my not-inconsiderable disposable income. And I know plenty of gamers who feel the same.

I agree with you 100 percent!