D&D General Why Do People Hate Gnomes?

[MGibster]

I mean good grief. You compare it to My Hero Academia, a series with millions of viewers for the anime, one of the top watched on Netflix here in Japan. Routinely gets mentioned in Geek media and the like as well.

Or Elmore? Seriously? Someone who has sold millions of copies of his art?

There’s a very large difference in scale here.

This here is just an example of anti-Gnome bias. Always picking on the little fellow!

 

[Chaosmancer]

Putting a lot of importance into a couple of jokes, friend.

Comes from far too many times of someone stating afterwords that they were completely serious and not joking.

 

[Faolyn]

I've long been thinking that having both halflings and gnomes in the same campaign is redundant.

And gnomes are clearly the better of the two. Halflings have the thing wherenthey are thieves, and that's literally their only thing. And thief is a class, not a race.

Halflings have another benefit. If you want your humans to be pretty unusual--magitech/steampunk/pseudo-Victorian/Edwardian cities, for instance, or are all have bronze-age or stone-age level tech, or are all in cahoots with the Big Bad, you know, something other than the standard medieval-style humans--then halflings make a good replacement for them! Halflings do the job of "typical human" so humans can go off and be wild.

 

[beancounter]

I had no idea people hated gnomes. Who are these people?

 

[Guest 7034872]

I had no idea people hated gnomes. Who are these people?

Oh, you know--the same ones who think pho is for hipsters.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

I had no idea people hated gnomes. Who are these people?

If you read through the thread, you'll see a few people that saying they hate gnomes. Most of them are just because of bad experiences or not liking a certain version of them, and there are a lot of people in this thread that don't hate gnomes but think they're redundant.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I had no idea people hated gnomes. Who are these people?

...elves, of course.

Elves are born of hate.

I play D&D too late, got nothing in my brain
That's what the elves say, that's what the elves say
I game on too many dates, all I want to do is play
At least that's what the elves say, that's what the elves say

But I keep playing
Can't stop, won't stop gaming
It's like I got D&D in my mind
Saying it's gonna be alright
I never miss a beat, my PC get all the feats
And that's what they don't see, that's what they don't see

Players gonna play, play, play, play, play
And the the elves gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate (the elves gonna hate)

 

[Warpiglet-7]

...elves, of course.

Elves are born of hate.

I play D&D too late, got nothing in my brain
That's what the elves say, that's what the elves say
I game on too many dates, all I want to do is play
At least that's what the elves say, that's what the elves say

But I keep playing
Can't stop, won't stop gaming
It's like I got D&D in my mind
Saying it's gonna be alright
I never miss a beat, my PC get all the feats
And that's what they don't see, that's what they don't see

Players gonna play, play, play, play, play
And the the elves gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate (the elves gonna hate)

Wth man? It’s sick.

 

[Parmandur]

that would be brutal as Tolkien write in a fashion that makes me think I am eating the best-tasting brick in the world good, enjoyable but heavy and hard to consume.

The Hobbit, which is light reading for children...?

 

[Chaosmancer]

Sure. A Kindle only digital publication that hasn’t actually been in print is an excellent example of the penetration of the market for gnomes in literature.

I mean please, come on. Seriously? This is your example for go to literary examples of gnomes? Some unknown two dollar Kindle book? Oh wait, it’s barely a novel. It’s a novella at 189 pages.

I don’t think you are quite making the slam dunk you think you are.

I mean good grief. You compare it to My Hero Academia, a series with millions of viewers for the anime, one of the top watched on Netflix here in Japan. Routinely gets mentioned in Geek media and the like as well.

Or Elmore? Seriously? Someone who has sold millions of copies of his art?

There’s a very large difference in scale here.

189 pages... for Book 1. Of Seven books. Book two is 354 pages, and THAT'S the book where Fizzlesprocket is introduced. And 350 pages is clearly a novel, right? Or do I have to combine the entire thing? That is 2,865 pages for the main series and 625 for Fizzlesprocket's spin-off book. That's more than the Lord of the Rings trilogy, probably more than the entire body of work published by J.R.R. Tolkien is we want to compare bodies of work, but since this book was published as an E-Book it doesn't count? Because, it isn't like publishing and the book industry has changed at all since 1937 right?

And the other seven series I mentioned just... don't count? I guess it is pretty easy to dismiss the works of Baum on Oz. Or to ignore that Artemis Fowl was not only published, but had a movie adaptation and I think a proposed TV series. Or that the Dark Profit Saga also was pulished in paperback.

I don't ignore the difference of scale, but you didn't ask for "give me a gnome that hundreds of millions of people will know" you said "give me gnomes in literature". Well, specifically you wanted "classical" fantasy, which you still never addressed how biased THAT was either.

And that's what this is. Bias. Too short to count. Too new count. Published in the wrong format to count. I've never claimed any of these works had millions of followers and were pop culture icons. That wasn't the point.