D&D General Why Do People Hate Gnomes?

[CleverNickName]

I've tried using Roll 20's fog of war. I love it as half an excuse.

I honestly miss lowlight vision though, even if I don't care too much for the light source minigame. It's just weird that everyone is cats or bad at existing in a world made of dungeons with no middle ground.

Honestly? I nullify darkvision completely. I put a light source of some kind in every dungeon. A lantern on every support beam. An everburning torch in every forgotten crypt. A full moon over every night-time encounter. Darkness is a spell that you can cast, not a battlefield condition that you can ignore in order to feel special.

I can't officially change or remove darkvision from the game without my players throwing a fit, so I found a work-around.

Fire in the center of the cave, strange phosphorescent mushrooms, mysterious glowing fog, passive fire beetle infestation, whatever. I'll think of something. Anything to avoid using darkvision.

 

[Green Onceler]

I'll take gnomes over all the elephant-people, turtle-people, dog-people etc.

 

[Faolyn]

~headdesks so hard, the desk, floor and two apartment floors below are split in twain~

5E, Get yourself together man.

They also can't jump worth a darn.

Meanwhile, back in 3e, elephants had the Jump skill.

 

[Mind of tempest]

They also can't jump worth a darn.

Meanwhile, back in 3e, elephants had the Jump skill.

that defies all known elephant biology.

 

[Parmandur]

Have people mentioned the 70's Gnomes book yet?

Gnomes (book) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, I think that played a big role both Silent Generation member Gary Gygax thinking they were a good option, and Gen X kids picking up the game thinking they were a bad option.

 

[Mind of tempest]

Yeah, I think that played a big role both indolent Generation member Gary Gygax thinking they were a good option, and Gen X kids picking up the game thinking they were a bad option.

I end up with a couple of those books, I liked the images.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Anything to avoid using darkvision.

I had honestly forgotten 5e had rules for darkvision you were supposed to pretend to care about instead of just 'you can see in the dark'.

They also can't jump worth a darn.

Meanwhile, back in 3e, elephants had the Jump skill.

And inherently good climbers due to their Strength.

Ninja-phants.

 

[Shades of Eternity]

You want to know my default gnome is?

Peter Dinklage

They are smarter then you and more then a little fed up of the short jokes and innuendos.

They will play the fool until you get into shanking range.

They also have an army of robots that they use when they need muscle.

And if they get mad at you, they will study you and tailor an illusion to traumatized and gaslight you into insanity.

All while eating their pineapple pizza.

 

[Parmandur]

I end up with a couple of those books, I liked the images.

I think it's fun, but I'm a Millenial rather than a Gen Xer, and it wasn't on my Grandma's coffee table.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Fun fact: according to MM cats don't have darkvision.

~headdesks so hard, the desk, floor and two apartment floors below are split in twain~

5E, Get yourself together man.

Oh, it gets even worse.

Tabaxi do get darkvision. And the part of the race that explains why they get darkvision says it's because "You have a cat’s keen senses, especially in the dark."

So, in D&D 5e, cats don't have darkvision, but the catfolk race does, and the reason why the catfolk get darkvision is because they have the senses of . . . a cat.