Why is Dragonlance Your Least Favorite Setting?

Why is Dragonlance your Least Favorite Setting?

  • Kender, Gully Dwarves, and Tinker Gnomes

    Votes: 40 15.1%
  • Steel money makes no sense

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Setting ruined by Dragons of Summer Flame

    Votes: 33 12.5%
  • Can't stand the books

    Votes: 15 5.7%
  • Straight-jacketed by books/adventures

    Votes: 76 28.7%
  • I love DragonLance!

    Votes: 71 26.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 20 7.5%

Dragonlance sucked, and I never understood its appeal outside of the novels. The setting and adventures were a railroad tour-de-force that let the PCs bystanders in the wake of Raistlin and his uber-buddies. Same with all WoTC settings to one degree or another.

And don't get me started on the lame cutesy races in DL... :mad: Worst. Races. Ever.

I never read the novels, though my friend did and liked the first couple but said they sucked after that. We tried to play DL back in 1e and hated it. I returned one of the DL modules (the only one I ever bought) because I thought it sucked so bad. This is the only module I ever returned in 20 years of gaming! I think I got B4: The Lost City instead. Now that was a cool module (although it made little sense and glossed over the "lost city" just when it was getting good).

Zargon lives! :D
 
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I say we need an all of the above (except I love Dragonlance). I can't vote, there are too many good choices. This is as tough as the ENies.
 

Dark Psion said:
From Leoplod:
My hope is that you focus more on making the dragons feared and interacting with the setting more. None of this "I take a level in PrC X and get a great wyrm mount" . I know there will be dragon riders but make it gutsy, challenging, tough. Make the dragon resist, make them roll saves, roleplay getting the dragon. This is like asking a demigod if you can hitch a ride, i doubt it is going to say no but you never know.

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What if the warrior had to become the Dragon's familiar before it would let him ride?

now THAT would be interesting to see and worth taking a look at. To me that makes sense. It's not that the dragon bonds with the rider, it's the sheer fact the dragon would PERMIT a rider to be on him and carried into battle.


All the battles with dragon riders glorified the dragons as winged scaled horses. Dragons are not like that, they are not stupid mounts for mortals to ride, it just rubbed me wrong everytime i saw the dragons in DL and then compared them to GH or FR. They looked less and less like dragons and more like simple steeds than creatures of unspeakable power that mortals would be blessed by their gods to be even allowed to ride them.

A human familar for a dragon...why not!
 

Strange

I actually love DL very much...the setting, the potential..but I still agree to all of the other poll options that appear up at the beginning. The setting was ruined by DoSF, the comification of the once pretty fascinating race of Kender (anybody noticed how 3E halflings resemble 2E Kender? ;) ) made it go sour, and playing in the shadow of the books (which were great none the less) was making it very hard...

And I still love DL, and I´m looking forward to the 3E version :D
 

Re: Re: Dragonlance for D&D3e/d20

Kai Lord said:


Jamie,

I sincerely hope that you each have a copy of the 3E Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. From the art to the fluff to the crunchy bits, its a near perfect template for how to make a sourcebook. FRCS set the bar pretty high, please make every effort to meet or exceed it with Dragonlance.

As you may or may not know, the Dragonlance Campaign Setting (i.e. the "core book") is being written by Sovereign Press but is being developed, edited, and published by Wizards of the Coast. The FR book set the standard in how WotC campaign worlds are presented, and yes, we do have copies in our office to reference. The outline we originally created was done to match the structure and flow of information found in the impressive FR book.

That said, our book will capture the feel of Dragonlance, and while still full of the "crunchy bits" many gamers love, we are also including lots of world information, flavor, legends, mythology--all of the elements that make Krynn what it is. I believe it will appeal to both min-maxing hack 'n slashers (dual-wielding minotaur barbarians!) and those who love the novels.

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
 


As long as I don't flip the book open and find Spikey haired guys in outfits of buckles I'll give it a good look. Please make sure there is no anime influenced art!! I loved the first two trilogies, but quit reading after Weis & Hickman stopped writing back then.
 

Flexor the Mighty! said:
As long as I don't flip the book open and find Spikey haired guys in outfits of buckles I'll give it a good look. Please make sure there is no anime influenced art!! I loved the first two trilogies, but quit reading after Weis & Hickman stopped writing back then.

Wha-wha-wha-what???!?!?

After Weiss/Hickman stopped writing????!? So you missed out on greats like Rose of the Prophet, and Death Gate? Even the Darksword trilogy was pretty cool (till the sci-fi ending -- that part kinda blew).

Oh, wait. You meant after they stoped writing Dragonlance. Well, you have a point, they only wrote a few novellas over many years letting lots of tiny hack writers rip the setting apart (IM(ns)HO). You probably missed those.

Ignore me. Everyone else does. :D
 


About Steel Coins, to Sigma :


Yes, indeed, we don't use oil as a currency, but we don't use any other base, stragegic, material as a currency either anymore !
We use only paper money ! And actually the paper dollar is the reference. And the first to reply that dollar is guaranteed by gold will have the disagreable answer of my ill-breathed, uncontrollable laughter in his face (for which I apologize in advance)! As anyone knows, it hasn't been since the early fifties... :p
So in a world were exchange rates are not fixed by the availability of any material, but by other means, the comparison is not valuable.

In a world where (refined) iron is not so easy to come by (like... any medieval setting), it is not so stupid. And, by the way, in the 13th-15th century in Western Europe, iron and/or steel bars were used to pay Privateers and even Markgraves and Other nobles, so they could finance their canon-making and armament.

So I don't think it stupid, and, on the contrary, it may be one of the, in fact, rarest original and well-thought insights in any RPG fantasy world.
 

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