Why is Otto's Irresistable Dance a Level 8 spell?

[Kae'Yoss]

Right you are. I knew that it was in an official write-up, but I didn't find it when I looked it up in T&B or MoF, and PCGen didn't help me either. That was because I only looked under Wizard spells.

Otto's Resistable Dance is indeed Bard 5, and it works a little differently than OID: It has duration concentration (as long as the bard plays), will negates and it's only -2 on AC, Will, Concentration and Spellcraft. So not really what we sought.

 

[Someone]

How it can be 4 level? With a save, it´s a lot weaker than Hold Monster, and perhaps slightly more powerful than Tasha´s hideous laughter. It´s 3rd level at most.

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

How it can be 4 level? With a save, it´s a lot weaker than Hold Monster, and perhaps slightly more powerful than Tasha´s hideous laughter. It´s 3rd level at most.

It could be 4th level because the ability to affect any type of monster makes it handy in a way that a 3rd level Hold Person is not.

I agree that as a short, variable duration spell, it looks a lot weaker than Confusion, Charm Monster, or Emotion.

3rd level seems about right to me.

 

[reapersaurus]

Thanks, guys.

 

[James McMurray]

I'd say third level, since it is only slightly more powerful than Tasha's Laughter.

 

[Saeviomagy]

The point is that it's duration:concentration. That could be a really really long time...

 

[Kae'Yoss]

The point is that it's duration:concentration. That could be a really really long time...

No, that's only the Bard version. We're talking about a lower-level version of the 8th-level sor/wiz spell. It would be like the original, only it would allow a saving throw (and would last 1d4+1 rounds).