Why, oh why...

It's actually pretty good...the fatespinner abilities have saved our collective asses more times than I can count, the wild mage CL boost is nasty (+1d6 to CL every time I cast a spell. We can argue abou this all we want, but in the FAQ, it says that the bonus is applied in the most benificial way. Anyway, ignore this before this thread devolves), and the telepathy is just cool.
 

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WarlockLord said:
... the wild mage CL boost is nasty (+1d6 to CL every time I cast a spell. We can argue abou this all we want, but in the FAQ, it says that the bonus is applied in the most benificial way. ...
(You may want to check out the specific FAQ entry on how Practiced Spellcaster interacts with wild mage. Or possibly not...)
 


Thanks for pointing that one out Heap.

*hates the way Wild Mage, once the most feared and reviled class of all time, is now just a joke...* Anyway if you're happy Warlock, that's your business. Me, I'd have done something completely different. But there you are.
 



WarlockLord said:
the wild mage CL boost is nasty (+1d6 to CL every time I cast a spell.
Iku Rex said:
You may want to check out the specific FAQ entry on how Practiced Spellcaster interacts with wild mage.
WarlockLord said:
Yeah, I did.
No you didn't. If you had you wouldn't have said that it adds +1d6 CL.
3.5 FAQ said:
How does Practiced Spellcaster interact with the wild
magic class feature of the wild mage (from Complete
Arcane)?

The –3 penalty and +1d6 bonus to the wild mage’s caster
level are applied as a single step in the process of determining
the wild mage’s caster level.
Since Practiced Spellcaster’s
bonus is always applied when it is most beneficial to the
character (see previous answer), a wild mage with Practiced
Spellcaster would typically apply the wild magic class feature
first (subtracting 3 and adding 1d6 to her caster level) and then
add the Practiced Spellcaster benefit, up to a maximum value
equal to her character level.
For example, if a 5th-level wizard/4th-level wild mage with
Practiced Spellcaster rolled a 1 on the 1d6 bonus to her caster
level, her caster level for that spell would be 9th (base 9th, –3
from wild magic penalty, +1 from wild magic bonus, +4 from
Practiced Spellcaster up to a maximum equal to her character
level). If she rolled a 6, her caster level would be 12th (base
9th, –3 from wild magic penalty, +6 from wild magic bonus;
the Practiced Spellcaster bonus would not apply since it would
increase her caster level above her character level).
On the other hand, imagine a wild mage whose caster level
(before applying the effects of the wild magic class feature) is
less than her character level, such as a wild mage with levels of
rogue or other non-spellcasting class. She might well choose to
apply the Practiced Spellcaster bonus first, before applying the
wild magic modifiers. A rogue 4/wizard 5/wild mage 4 would
have a base caster level of 9th before any other modifiers are
applied. Adding Practiced Spellcaster’s bonus would increase
this to 13th, at which point the penalty and bonus from wild
magic would be applied. The Sage recommends that players
averse to frequently recalculating caster level avoid playing a
character with this combination, as it is likely to cause
headaches.
This means that you never get more than +3 CL from wild mage, and usually get less or nothing. (Still good, just not as good as +1d6 CL.)
 


Iku Rex said:
No you didn't. If you had you wouldn't have said that it adds +1d6 CL.
This means that you never get more than +3 CL from wild mage, and usually get less or nothing. (Still good, just not as good as +1d6 CL.)

I dunno. It seems that improbable multiclass thing got to choose the order, why can't I?
 

Nightfall said:
*hates the way Wild Mage, once the most feared and reviled class of all time, is now just a joke...*

"Wild magic" with bizarro random effects is far better for stories than for a game. People seem to think that since their magic is "chaotic" "uncontrolled" "wild" and "random" it should be better and work in their favor.
 

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