Why Shouldn't I Ban "Come and Get It"?

[Dave Turner]

You describe it by not using it on PCs. This does not rule out PCs using it on NPCs, because the entire philosophy of 4E is that PCs and NPCs play by different rules.

Exactly. This isn't 3e.

 

[ForbidenMaster]

Err ... dumb example, but ancient red dragon?
Move into a flank (for 2 other party members) and smack ... but set up a flank then pulling the dragon into it?

edit: oops, put a sentence in wrong place. should be:
Move into a flank and smack ... but set up a flank (for 2 other party members) then pulling the dragon into it?

But its not a pull. The target shifts. On a grid I cant see a way where a large red dragon can shift into being flanked, without having already stopped because he is already adjacent.


EDIT: Yes I can, however its a lot simpler if its a pull/slide which there are pleantly of powers that do so, which would also negate it.

 

[Fenes]

You describe it by not using it on PCs. This does not rule out PCs using it on NPCs, because the entire philosophy of 4E is that PCs and NPCs play by different rules.

What if PCs battle PCs? Like when one gets forced to do so?

 

[ForbidenMaster]

You describe it by not using it on PCs. This does not rule out PCs using it on NPCs, because the entire philosophy of 4E is that PCs and NPCs play by different rules.

Wait, why cant you use it on PCs with an NPC? PCs arent subject to goads?

 

[Danceofmasks]

But its not a pull. The target shifts. On a grid I cant see a way where a large red dragon can shift into being flanked, without having already stopped because he is already adjacent.


EDIT: Yes I can, however its a lot simpler if its a pull/slide.

But it being a dragon, I'd prefer the power automatically asking them to shift than having to hit with something first?

 

[theNater]

I particularly like the idea of making it a deliberate opening. At an appropriate moment, the fighter flashes the "look distracted" signal to his allies, then stumbles heavily. The bad guys notice that a)the fighter's about to go prone and b)they can get over to him without getting clocked by the guys they're currently fighting. It would be a very rare opponent indeed who could resist the opportunity to hop over there and stab 'im while he's down. Of course, once they get there, the fighter turns his staged stumble into a wide sword sweep, and thwacks 'em all one. Good times.

 

[generalhenry]

to answer the title, if you really don't like the flavor there's not much stopping you from banning it. It just means the fighter picks a different power.

 

[ForbidenMaster]

But it being a dragon, I'd prefer the power automatically asking them to shift than having to hit with something first?

Inst that what the power does? The target shifts, and then you attack anyone in range.

 

[hong]

Wait, why cant you use it on PCs with an NPC?

You certainly can. And if you do, describing the effects of this power in-game is an exercise left to the DM.

 

[Danceofmasks]

Yeah, but I was responding to your idea of pull/slide being better .. however most of those require you hitting them first.

edit: was responding to

Inst that what the power does? The target shifts, and then you attack anyone in range.