Why the beer hate? (Forked Thread: What are the no-goes...)

[Flatus Maximus]

.... But I don't have to hang around you long enough to find out which one of you is going to start with the idiocy or the outbursts or the urinating into someone's book-bag when the leave the room.

Inquiring minds wanna know: Real-life experience or way over-the-top exaggeration?

 

[Jack99]

Less radical? Sure. But that doesn't do me much good. Smokers almost universally underestimate how much smoke and smoke-stink clings to them for at least an hour or two after smoking. I get a scratchy, phlegmy throat just from getting a good whiff of the clinging residue.

If you have an extreme medical condition, I can certainly better respect and understand your decision.

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

I personally love a refreshing adult beverage, but I prefer not to have any drinking going on during game. I have seen it lead to issues, though not often. I just prefer to be in top form, mentally, and I really notice the effects of even 1 or 2 beers during gaming more than almost any other time.

 

[Jeff Wilder]

If you have an extreme medical condition, I can certainly better respect and understand your decision.

As far as I'm aware, I don't have an extreme medical condition. Smoke is a severe irritant. Far more people are affected the way I am than most smokers realize (or want to realize).

BTW, I don't have independent confirmation of this, but I was told by my allergist that it's impossible to be allergic to smoke ... something about smoke particles being too large to be an allergen. He called smoke an "irritant," which is the terminology I use now.

 

[Dausuul]

That's got to be a myth. Alcohol is a dehydrating agent. You can't subsist on ale.

Depends on how strong the ale is. One of the popular drinks in medieval times was "small beer," which was very weak stuff; people doing heavy manual labor would consume many pints of it over the course of a working day. It was safe as much because it was boiled during the brewing process as because of its slight alcohol content.

 

[Chainsaw]

Ancient O'Douls!

 

[Jack99]

As far as I'm aware, I don't have an extreme medical condition. Smoke is a severe irritant. Far more people are affected the way I am than most smokers realize (or want to realize).

Sorry, but it's not that common to have that kind of reaction if someone has smoked outside and then later enters the room. Most people do not even know you have smoked unless they get very close to you.

AFAIK, YMMV etc.

Either way, it's fairly irrelevant. My point was simply that if it indeeds affects you even when people have smoked outside, then yes, I understand your reaction.

 

[rogueattorney]

As someone who's been drinking and gaming for 20 years I can't recall it ever being a problem. Most of my gaming buddies were drinking buddies before become gaming buddies, anyway.

I've spent about a quarter of my life defending or prosecuting drunk drivers, and have thus taken a few seminars on the effects of drinking on people. An average 180 lb (82 kg) man can drink 4 beers in a 3 hour game session and not exhibit much, if any, effect from the alcohol. The same man, can likely drink a 5th beer over that three hour period and still be legal to drive in Illinois (which has the .08 BAC rate as the legal limit).

Biologically, 5 average gamers splitting a 12 pack of Sam Adams for a standard length game session simply shouldn't be a problem. Some of the stories I'm seeing on this thread are either involving people who are simply inexperienced with alcohol or are binge drinking (or likely both for teenagers and college kids) or are s whether drunk or sober. I don't see any reason why a group of adult gamers shouldn't share a reasonable amount of alcohol while playing.

If I was gaming with someone at their house, and they, for whatever reason, didn't want alcohol there, I'd have no problem whatsoever. Just, knowing the guys I've usually gamed with, we'd be suggesting the next gaming session be held somewhere else. But there wouldn't be any hard feelings.

However, if there were a game (or any other function) at my house, and someone asked me not to drink, that person would be invited to leave my house.

And, obviously, if I were running in or playing a game where some of the participants are children, I'd certainly not be drinking.

I don't smoke, and I don't want smoke in my house. However, I have a nice comfy outside porch area that smokers are welcome to use. If you smoke at your house, I've got no problem with it and it won't stop me from gaming there.

 

[Halivar]

Sorry, but it's not that common to have that kind of reaction if someone has smoked outside and then later enters the room. Most people do not even know you have smoked unless they get very close to you.

Count me as one of the weird ones, then. I hate it. I tolerate it, and it doesn't stop me from hanging out with them, but I still hate it to death. (And for the love of Pete, don't ask me to join you on the porch to talk! I get that one all the time.)

BTW, about the alcohol thing: if you can't trust some players because they are irresponsible with alcohol, you should consider whether you really want to game with them in the first place. The real problem, in those situations, is not the alcohol: it's the person.

 

[Jeff Wilder]

Sorry, but it's not that common to have that kind of reaction if someone has smoked outside and then later enters the room. Most people do not even know you have smoked unless they get very close to you.

You're a smoker, right?