D&D General Why the resistance to D&D being a game?

[MichaelSomething]

Ok, so I've lost a thread (mental, not ENWorld one) somewhere.

I know why group A doesn't want super-buffed fighters unless they're supernatural somehow.

And I know that group B wants fighters to be just as gonzo as the wizards.

I've forgotten why either group cares if there is no decent mundane fighter option, and all the good ones are supernatural somehow.

Anyone care to say if they are A or B and if they hate the balanced-with-wizards /gonzo fighters needing to pick a power source like demi-god, ancient mystic heritage, secret inner power source, dipped in Styx, blessed by the gods, etc ..?

How can a mundane guy fight a T-Rex? Or deal with other higher level situations?

 

[Micah Sweet]

If you're not aware that in common usage "Its good that this happened" is frequently used as synonymous with "I'm glad this happened", I don't know what to tell you, man.

Two words, "I think" or even "IMO" would have fixed this whole argument.

 

[Micah Sweet]

How can a mundane guy fight a T-Rex? Or deal with other higher level situations?

Supernatural powers?

 

[FrogReaver]

How can a mundane guy fight a T-Rex? Or deal with other higher level situations?

From past threads there was a fairly strong consensus that Captain America level fighters were acceptable. If that’s supernatural it’s natural adjacent supernaturality.

Note: mundane isn’t really the right word.

 

[Cadence]

I'd suggest the people who want the truly mundane options--and consider that a meaningful distinction--aren't the same people who want wuxia fighters.

I certainly agree with that. My question I guess is why we need a mundane option if the game involves...

How can a mundane guy fight a T-Rex? Or deal with other higher level situations?

The easy answer feels like just have them have...

Supernatural powers?

 

[Thomas Shey]

Or you could bring back TSR restrictions on casters, and let fighters cleave like there's no tomorrow.

Well, that is cutting back on mages power, just doing so in a (to my--and far as I can tell a fair number of other people's view) kind of backward and annoying way.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Two words, "I think" or even "IMO" would have fixed this whole argument.

And expecting that in any consistent way, especially outside a more deliberate exchange, is a lost cause.

 

[FrogReaver]

I certainly agree with that. My question I guess is why we need a mundane option if the game involves...



The easy answer feels like just have them have...

Personally I wouldn’t consider captain America to be supernatural but I could easily imagine him taking on a t-Rex.

Also, IMO mundane isn’t the right word for what anyone wants.

 

[Cadence]

Personally I wouldn’t consider captain America to be supernatural but I could easily imagine him taking on a t-Rex.

Also, IMO mundane isn’t the right word for what anyone wants.

Isn't mundane the opposite of supernatural? Happy to get more word choices. What would you go with.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I certainly agree with that. My question I guess is why we need a mundane option if the game involves...



The easy answer feels like just have them have...

Because some people want to have their cake and eat it too.