Storm Raven
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Gizzard said:
Sort of. He sets some pine cones on fire and throws them. Little, tiny bursts of fire that do little more than singe the noses of the worgs. Not D&D style incineration blasts.
Why wasn't that in the movies?
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Sort of. He sets some pine cones on fire and throws them. Little, tiny bursts of fire that do little more than singe the noses of the worgs. Not D&D style incineration blasts.
Ankh-Morpork Guard
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Storm Raven said:
Still a fire"ball" in the end, though! I need to re-read The Hobbit...its been a long time.
ControlFreak
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A few years back .. before the movies .. I was talking about Gandalf to a friend who is a big-time purist. One thing he commented on was how Gandalf really doens't do that much that is "magical" in the books. I think we can easily count them here:
1) He made a flood look like white horses
2) He "may have" caused some flashes in the sky that were seen by the hobbits on their trip from Bree to Rivendell
3) He breaks the bridge of Kazad Dum
4) He comes back from the dead
If I remember correctly, that was it. I guess you could say something about his fireworks, but that can be argued as non-magical.
1) He made a flood look like white horses
2) He "may have" caused some flashes in the sky that were seen by the hobbits on their trip from Bree to Rivendell
3) He breaks the bridge of Kazad Dum
4) He comes back from the dead
If I remember correctly, that was it. I guess you could say something about his fireworks, but that can be argued as non-magical.
Storm Raven
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ControlFreak said:
He also drives away the nazgul with a great light to help cover Faramir's retreat from Osgiliath. He dazzles Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas when he reveals himself to therm in Fanghorn. He (along with Elrond) healed Frodo's morgul blade wound in Rivendell. He magically lights a fire on Caradhras. He creates magical light in Moria to guide the Fellowship, and casts a door locking spell (which is broken by the balrog). He inspired Theoden to cast off Wormtongue's influence and become a great king again. And so on.
But his primary magical ability is the ability to inspire. He kindles hope in the hearts of men.
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kengar
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Storm Raven, iirc Elrond heals Frodo (in film & book), not Gandalf.
At the Council of Elrond, you find out that Gandalf did cause the lightning at Weathertop. (at least, he says how he fought the Nazgul then).
In the Hobbit, Gandalf kills several goblins with a flash of lightning when the dwarfs are first captured. He also causes the fire in the Great Goblin's hall to go out and the sparks that fly from it strike the goblins and burn them. He magically lights the pinecones when they are hiding in the trees. The flame is magical and burns the wolves more readily and spreads faster than normal fire.
In LOTR, he mentions how wizards can -apparently at will- read the minds of normal folks, change their appearance (illusion) and speak to animals. Gandalf magically lights fire to prevent the Fellowship from freezing on the mountainside, casts the spell which reveals the Ithildin-marked door to Moria. He kills several orcs in Moria with a lightning-like spell, "wizard locks" a door, and fights the balrog. He "awes" Aragorn, Gimli & Legolas when they meet Gandalf the White, he commands Suaron to stay when he would leave, shatters his staff, and he wards off the Nazgul to save Faramir.
He does much more than this as well, but these are some of the more overtly magical incidents fromt he books.
EDIT: Gandalf also knows over 200 spells of opening alone.
At the Council of Elrond, you find out that Gandalf did cause the lightning at Weathertop. (at least, he says how he fought the Nazgul then).
In the Hobbit, Gandalf kills several goblins with a flash of lightning when the dwarfs are first captured. He also causes the fire in the Great Goblin's hall to go out and the sparks that fly from it strike the goblins and burn them. He magically lights the pinecones when they are hiding in the trees. The flame is magical and burns the wolves more readily and spreads faster than normal fire.
In LOTR, he mentions how wizards can -apparently at will- read the minds of normal folks, change their appearance (illusion) and speak to animals. Gandalf magically lights fire to prevent the Fellowship from freezing on the mountainside, casts the spell which reveals the Ithildin-marked door to Moria. He kills several orcs in Moria with a lightning-like spell, "wizard locks" a door, and fights the balrog. He "awes" Aragorn, Gimli & Legolas when they meet Gandalf the White, he commands Suaron to stay when he would leave, shatters his staff, and he wards off the Nazgul to save Faramir.
He does much more than this as well, but these are some of the more overtly magical incidents fromt he books.
EDIT: Gandalf also knows over 200 spells of opening alone.
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Storm Raven
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kengar said:
They both work to heal Frodo. Gandalf mentions this to Frodo.
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kengar said:
Yeah, but how many that actually work?
-Hyp.
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