Wielding two daggers

[kreynolds]

Actually, 2 weapon fighting is for melee attacks only. Ambidexterity would help negate the -4 for the off hand.

That's why I said you add the two-weapon fighting penalty, not bonus.

 

[Crothian]

That's why I said you add the two-weapon fighting penalty, not bonus.

It was unclear to me. the normal penalty for fighting with 2 weapons (assume ambidextretity feat) is -4/-4. The 2 weapon fighting feat makes that -2/-2, but still a penalty. I wasn't sure which penalty you were talking about and since I've seen many people who thought the 2 weapon fighting feat could be used with thrown attacks, I figured it was better to make the point in cannot.

 

[kreynolds]

It was unclear to me. the normal penalty for fighting with 2 weapons (assume ambidextretity feat) is -4/-4. The 2 weapon fighting feat makes that -2/-2, but still a penalty. I wasn't sure which penalty you were talking about and since I've seen many people who thought the 2 weapon fighting feat could be used with thrown attacks, I figured it was better to make the point in cannot.

I hear ya'. Actually, this whole thing was just recently cleared up for me as well. I have a fighter in another game that uses throwing axes, which are nice for ranged attacks but are kinda lame weapons for melee. So, after finding out that I will forever be at -4/-4, I decided to just pick up a couple of sabres, which have the same penalty but deal more damage.

 

[Crothian]

I hear ya'. Actually, this whole thing was just recently cleared up for me as well. I have a fighter in another game that uses throwing axes, which are nice for ranged attacks but are kinda lame weapons for melee. So, after finding out that I will forever be at -4/-4, I decided to just pick up a couple of sabres, which have the same penalty but deal more damage.

I've got a character who I'm making into a ranged combat expert. Good with bow, throwing axes, and any ranged weapon. The extra attack with the off hand just isn't worth it. Rapid Shot is good enough for me.

 

[kreynolds]

I've got a character who I'm making into a ranged combat expert. Good with bow, throwing axes, and any ranged weapon. The extra attack with the off hand just isn't worth it. Rapid Shot is good enough for me.

Yeah, if you don't use both hands, rapid shot works out great. Unfortunately, I didn't plan my character very well when I first drafted him, but he's still perfect for the Tempest PrC.

 

[Crothian]

Yeah, if you don't use both hands, rapid shot works out great. Unfortunately, I didn't plan my character very well when I first drafted him, but he's still perfect for the Tempest PrC.

THe tempest. That has my vote for the best description to the worst game mechanics of any prestige class. I really like the description, but the prerequites and the abilities through levels just don't seem to make sense to me.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

On the other hand it is even sadder when someone turns into a complete as soon as you disagree with them. Or even worse when you merely decide not to take their advice.

Apparently it's quite the stretch for some people. You know, it really sucks when you try to help someone and they turn into a bigot and only insult you in the end.

 

[kreynolds]

On the other hand it is even sadder when someone turns into a complete as soon as you disagree with them. Or even worse when you merely decide not to take their advice.

I don't know what you're talkin' about. I've always been an *******, so you shouldn't be surprised. Besides, I was just being helpful. You were being ugly.