D&D General Willpower and ... Charisma ??

[le Redoutable]

to say that, Charismatic people gain influence ( Power ) over ... less charismatic ones
...
so my sister is more charismatic than me, and often fights me in a Will vs Will that she usually wins
...
but beware ! the beast within rages and claims freedom from servitude ( grrr! )

 

[HammerMan]

I always think the wisdom/charisma need a cleaner break. I like willpower being a bit of both.

Charisma is likeability and force of personality
Wisdom is mental strength and perception.

will power is kinda mental strength AND force of personality.

 

[le Redoutable]

I would define Wis as a mix of Understanding and Dedication ;
so not much in common with your definition ;

 

[HammerMan]

I would define Wis as a mix of Understanding and Dedication ;
so not much in common with your definition ;

that is the most insightful thing I have seen you write. I think you may have a better grasp then me.

 

[le Redoutable]

would you link Mental Strength to Mental Defense , or Mental Str is for Attack and Mental Def is ... for Defense ?

 

[DND_Reborn]

We switched things up, making Clerics CHA-based casters to go with Paladins and Warlocks, calling it "Conviction".

Wisdom - Your connection with the world.
Charisma - Your connection with others, including gods/patrons.

This way, Druids and Rangers fit nicely into primal/natural spells. (Wisdom)
Wizards, Bards, and Sorcerers fall into arcane spells. (Intelligence)
Clerics, Paladins, and Warlocks are for divine/otherworldly spells. (Charisma)

 

[le Redoutable]

isn't it an import from Rolemaster ?

 

[DND_Reborn]

isn't it an import from Rolemaster ?

LOL no clue. Don't know of Rolemaster, but it made sense to me and the group agreed when I pitched it.

 

[le Redoutable]

in Rolemaster there were Channeling, Mentalism etc

 

[payn]

I think its split just fine. You use Cha to influence, and you use Will perceive.