Wither Steve's 3.5 Generator?

[mattcolville]

Cumbersome though it was, Steve Mulhearn's 3E Excel sheet was the best tool my group ever found for managing our characters. Which speaks to the poor quality of electronic support Wizards provides.

However, we've yet to see one for 3.5, and that kinda surprises me, since it's been so long since 3.5 came out. Does anyone have an updated sheet? Recent explorations suggest to me that there's still nothing as powerful out there as Steve's 3E sheet was.

 

[Eccles]

It doesn't cover Complete Arcane, but far and away the best 3.5 is at...

http://home.san.rr.com/blackbart/main.html

 

[EricNoah]

I think Steve's out of the spreadsheet business. Doesn't surprise me -- after helping update his spellsheet, and creating an Arcana Unearthed version, I can say it is a ton of work. I've all but gotten out of doing updates myself except for my own use (a spell here and there as I need them).

 

[mattcolville]

It doesn't cover Complete Arcane, but far and away the best 3.5 is at...

http://home.san.rr.com/blackbart/main.html

Yes, but unfortunately for my and my player's needs, this falls short.

I'm not surprised Steve's not updating the sheet, I'm just surprised no-one else has.

 

[Patman21967]

What ever happened to pencil and paper? For Spellbooks it is useful, but for characters. pencil, a spiral notebook and a good characer sheet still work best for me

If you send me your email, I'll send you a spreadsheet one of my players uses. It's modified with his character, but might shed some insight on where to find it

patman21967@cs.com

 

[kingpaul]

Cumbersome though it was, Steve Mulhearn's 3E Excel sheet was the best tool my group ever found for managing our characters.

Have you looked into PCGen (I'm biased toward this one )? eTools? Campaign Suite? I'm sure there are others out there, those are just the only ones I've used.

 

[mattcolville]

Have you looked into PCGen (I'm biased toward this one )? eTools? Campaign Suite? I'm sure there are others out there, those are just the only ones I've used.

Indeed I have. They're all exceptionally poor, when compared to professonal products. Steve's, at least, had the benefit of being in Excel.

 

[Blue_Kryptonite]

What ever happened to pencil and paper? For Spellbooks it is useful, but for characters. pencil, a spiral notebook and a good characer sheet still work best for me.

Some of us are math-challenged and forget the little rules interactions. I ran our characters through Redblade and PCGen recently and discovered they were off in dozens of small calculation errors. This after trying our best to decipher the handwriting of one of the players, who also could not read his own.

If we played with counters or miniatures, it would be even more of a nightmare keeping track of this range or that area of effect.... Data all the way, baby.

 

[kingpaul]

I ran our characters through Redblade and PCGen recently and discovered they were off in dozens of small calculation errors.

What problems did you find with PCGen?

 

[mariusm]

I have updated Steve's sheet.

I have made Steve's sheet 3.5 compliant. Just drop me a mail at marius.mathiesen@bcx.co.za and I will send you a copy. Maybe you can test it and let me know if you find any errors.

Cheers,
Marius.