PF Wizkids should take the Pathfinder 1.0 ruleset and publish their own RPG.

Campbell

Relaxed Intensity
If anyone does this I am certain it will not be Wizkids. They have a promotional partnership with Paizo. They pretty much make all of the Pathfinder minis.
 

Green Onceler

Explorer
Locally we have been running into issues finding 1st Edition GMs though.
That's interesting. We have the reverse situation. Not enough GMs confident enough to GM 2e yet.

Although, I am sure this will change and 2e will become the norm as GMs, and players, become more familiar.
 

ccs

39th lv DM
As far as I can tell they are also continuing to support 1st Edition play in Pathfinder Society even though they won't be producing new scenarios. You can still purchase 10 years of scenarios, register new 1st Edition characters, and local chapters are trying to run 1st Edition events in addition to 2nd Edition and Starfinder.

Locally we have been running into issues finding 1st Edition GMs though.
Well. Looks like some of you'll have to step up.
 

Maul

Explorer
If anyone does this I am certain it will not be Wizkids. They have a promotional partnership with Paizo. They pretty much make all of the Pathfinder minis.

Wasn't that the case with Paizo and WOTC just before Pathfinder was released?
 

Campbell

Relaxed Intensity
Wasn't that the case with Paizo and WOTC just before Pathfinder was released?
That case in particular involved Wizards of the Coast making a series of boneheaded business moves that adversely impacted Paizo and basically forced their hand. First they ended Paizo's stewardship of Dragon and Dungeon despite the magazines never being better. Second they released 4th Edition with an overly restrictive license that limited the content creators could provide including limitations on mature content. While I liked the setting changes personally, the radically changed the underlying setting. At this point Paizo was already producing the Pathfinder Adventure Path magazine using a setting that was very much informed by the current default setting with adventures planned well in advance.

I honestly don't see any reality where they could have made another choice. They were pretty much boxed into a corner.
 

ccs

39th lv DM
Wasn't that the case with Paizo and WOTC just before Pathfinder was released?
Not quite.
Paizo wrote 3.5 adventures & material and published the Dungeon & Dragon magazines. When the mags were cancelled & WoTC went the pretty much in-house 4e route, Paizo had to evolve or die.
They correctly asessed that there was still a perfectly viable market for the D20 system.
Thus PF1.
 

Aldarc

Adventurer
I kind of figured Dreamscarred Press should be the ones to continue the 3.5/PF1 line.
As it currently stands, they can barely manage their own lines. Dreamscarred Press is a super small company, and I believe that a number of their writers have moved onto other companies. Dreamscarred Press is also behind on delivering their psionic adaptation of Starfinder.
 

Xenonnonex

Adventurer
How do you figure a company working in creating miniatures would know enough about rules?
And especially rules as complex as 3.5 and Pathfinder.
 

Xenonnonex

Adventurer
As it currently stands, they can barely manage their own lines. Dreamscarred Press is a super small company, and I believe that a number of their writers have moved onto other companies. Dreamscarred Press is also behind on delivering their psionic adaptation of Starfinder.
Dreamscarred should focus some of their efforts on 5e.
 

Aldarc

Adventurer
Dreamscarred should focus some of their efforts on 5e.
Let me repeat myself: they can currently barely focus their efforts on anything.

On a personal note: I think that the last thing that our tabletop hobby needs is MORE 5e trying to Borgify the tabletop industry.
 

Xenonnonex

Adventurer
Let me repeat myself: they can currently barely focus their efforts on anything.

On a personal note: I think that the last thing that our tabletop hobby needs is MORE 5e trying to Borgify the tabletop industry.
They are still managing to do product for Starfinder.

They could even make 5e better. By including options that would be sorely needed.
 

Aldarc

Adventurer
They are still managing to do product for Starfinder.
You cannot apparently hear me, so I will speak up. DREAMSCARRED PRESS IS WOEFULLY BEHIND ON DELIVERING THEIR STARFINDER PRODUCTS! The estimated delivery for their Starfinder Kickstarter was November 2018. It has not yet been delivered.

They could even make 5e better. By including options that would be sorely needed.
We already drowning in so many 5e 3pp. Does the market really need more? Does the market-leading brand and system need to be made "better" by the aid of further 3pp brain drain?
 

Parmandur

Legend
You cannot apparently hear me, so I will speak up. DREAMSCARRED PRESS IS WOEFULLY BEHIND ON DELIVERING THEIR STARFINDER PRODUCTS! The estimated delivery for their Starfinder Kickstarter was November 2018. It has not yet been delivered.

We already drowning in so many 5e 3pp. Does the market really need more? Does the market-leading brand and system need to be made "better" by the aid of further 3pp brain drain?
More keeps getting made, and funded, so the market apparently wants more.
 

Xenonnonex

Adventurer
You cannot apparently hear me, so I will speak up. DREAMSCARRED PRESS IS WOEFULLY BEHIND ON DELIVERING THEIR STARFINDER PRODUCTS! The estimated delivery for their Starfinder Kickstarter was November 2018. It has not yet been delivered.
But they are still managing though right?
We already drowning in so many 5e 3pp. Does the market really need more? Does the market-leading brand and system need to be made "better" by the aid of further 3pp brain drain?
Based on the postings on these forums to begin with people want more 5e material. They want it on other forums. They want it on Twitter. So no. Your highly restricted individual viewpoint is not at all reflective of the gaming market. Not even close.

I am sure people who like 3pp see it as brain drain. That is an awesome way to describe it.
 

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