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[mhacdebhandia]

Too many ancient empires.

And I'm still trying to think why people would trust tielflings in general and why dragonborn especially would want to travel with them.

Do you, as an American, hate the British?

 

[Goobermunch]

Actually, Keith has talked about Tieflings being related to the Planes; a birth when a plane is manifesting/cotenimous with the Material results in a tiefling, and the Plane's nature reflects in the Tief's personality (a Shavarath tiefling being warlike and quick to violence, etc).

Did Keith state that in relation to 4e Tieflings or just 3e Tieflings? There's a major change occurring in what the term means. It may require a slight shift in the Eberron setting.

--G

 

[Villano]

Hmmm...so, the Dragonborn are honorable warriors who keep their word, but are sometimes arrogant and easily offended. That's actually kind of cool and...hey, wait a minute...

This is Star Trek!

Dragonborn = Klingons

Eladrin = Vulcans

Warforged = Borg

Dwarves, a former slave race, now fierce warriors? Bajoran!

Halflings are little thieves who promote trade amongst the races, granting them something of an “invisible empire” across the land? Ferengi!

Tieflings made a pact with evil "gods"? Cardassians!

Elves are...okay, I'm not quite sure on that one. A little help here? :\

Seriously, though, Dragonborn are looking a bit more interesting. I may have to play one of those...

 

[Wolfspider]

Elves are...okay, I'm not quite sure on that one. A little help here? :\

Romulans.

 

[JoeGKushner]

The entire point of ancient empires is to create ruins for you to loot, and to have made magic items for you to find.

And ancient empires are a pretty common trope.

Brad

I agree.

I meant too many living player character direct desendants of new racial types using ancient empires. It was too easy a two-for one shot. "Yeah, let's introduce to the core game these fairly different elements and say that they're not running things because they kicked either other's butts before the campaign started. And the fact that one of 'em is bound by evil originally? It adds to the role playing aspect!"

 

[Rechan]

Did Keith state that in relation to 4e Tieflings or just 3e Tieflings? There's a major change occurring in what the term means. It may require a slight shift in the Eberron setting.

That was directly related to 4e - the moment I heard "Tieflings in 4e", I went and asked the question.

But Eberron has changed the fluff with regards to all the races, so I don't see why "Woah, that's different" would be any different for Tiefs.

 

[JoeGKushner]

Do you, as an American, hate the British?

Nah. We won that war.

 

[RPG_Tweaker]

I'm seeing a hint of a Moorcockian omniverse thing underlying some of this chrome.

 

[Nahat Anoj]

Romulans.

I would place the Drow as D&D's Romulans.

There really is no race of badass, tree-hugging hippies in Star Trek.

 

[Merlin the Tuna]

Nah. We won that war.

They burnt the White House in the next one though. We never really got them back for that. Think it's too late at this point?

And I'm not really concerned about the Dragonborn-Tiefling shenanigans. It's farily similar to the elf/dwarf shenanigans present in LotR; if anything I expect to be annoyed by yet more Legolas-Gimli brouhaha than by "This is foreign and irreconcilable with my vision!"