WotC has a milking machine now (Draconomicon I)

[Ulthwithian]

*nods* WotC is known for their market research. While you can claim that this makes them 'slaves to the poll', you can't very well say that they're not listening to people. I can tell you that with Magic at least (is that a verboten topic here?), they do polls on their site all the time, and they do reference those results later. However, that's not their 'real' market research.

If you don't trust WotC's market research, you shouldn't trust their products, because those products are based on the research. Therefore, the logical conclusion is that you shouldn't use their products, as they would be based on two-faced, statistically insignificant, and/or completely spurious research.

 

[Stogoe]

Before I was in the Neutral on 4e camp. After this announcement, I have decided to boycott 4e entirely.

It's great that you've decided to share this with the rest of the class, but I'm just not sure that this information was relevant or interesting to anyone but yourself.

 

[Doug McCrae]

Now I'm confused. Are we cows or sheep? Or both? I know we're cowards and stupid and bad DMs, from previous threads.

 

[Campbell]

I'm not entirely sure why their splitting up Draconomicon Take 2, but I'll wait to see what sort of content they actually plan to deliver. I'll say this : I really hope this time around they focus on material that is more useful for running games rather than focusing overly on ecology. It should be jam packed on advice for using dragons as antagonists and allies - advice on setting up combat encounters with dragons with examples, advice on creating adventures where dragons are a major element, flavorful story elements, unique dragons complete with a variety of meaty story hooks, monsters that can serve as draconic minions, etc. The later books in the monster series really did a much better job at focusing on material that can be immediately useful to DMs. I hope this book follows suit.

"Baah"

 

[Roman]

Draconomicon was an excellent book in 3.X D&D. The only issue I had with it was the infestation of dragon stat blocks that took up perhaps 70 pages or so. If space in 4E Draconomicons is filled up with filler material like that to an even greater degree that would be a bummer, but if it is filled with actually interesting material on Dragons (like the rest of 3.X Draconomicon was), than these books would be great.

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

I know this is crazy talk, but even in 3e I liked supplements. I even liked Complete Mage (dun dun dunnnn...), an obvious money grab, since Complete Arcane was already published.

Or are supplements good in 3e and bad in 4e?

It seems that way. Of course, judging from certain posters, it seems like everything in 4e is bad, including the things that were just fine when they happened in 3e, and haven't been substantially changed since then.

 

[Wolfspider]

Not just sheep, but that we are being slaughtered by WOTC

Better that they slaughter sheep than the sacred cows I adore....

 

[hong]

Better that they slaughter sheep than the sacred cows I adore....

See, if you stopped loving cows, you wouldn't have this problem.

 

[Wolfspider]

It seems that way. Of course, judging from certain posters, it seems like everything in 4e is bad, including the things that were just fine when they happened in 3e, and haven't been substantially changed since then.

Hmm. This is become quite the meme.

 

[Wolfspider]

See, if you stopped loving cows, you wouldn't have this problem.

Do you suggest I start loving sheep instead?

By the way, nice eyeliner.