I don’t do transatlantic flights well. It would have ti be one hell of a holiday!
(Seriously though, that’s very kind).
WotC WotC invites Bob the World Builder and other creators to an in person Summit.
- Thread starter darjr
- Start date
(Seriously though, that’s very kind).
Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
I never said they were going to be good at it.
So am I and it's only a few drinks and the dinner and buffet special at Ponderosa
MichaelSomething
Legend
Screw WOTC and their summit! I say we have our own summit! An Ensummit if you will.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Right, they need the influencers to be more than just placated or even content, they need them to be actively enthusiastic about the new edition.
Bayushi_seikuro
Adventurer
I get the feeling, or at least hope, that this isn't as much bribe/manipulation in the traditional sense as much as... if these content creators have X million constant followers per stream, that is way more effective than research groups for having a finger on the pulse of what's going on.
As I type this, for some reason I'm reminded of Coke/New Coke/Coke Classic. As an old man, I remember the Cola Wars, when New Coke came out. Pepsi declared they won the Cola Wars, and gave their employees the day off. New Coke was an attempt at a thing for awhile before Coke released Coke Classic. ... of course, the going story still is that Coke wanted to switch to a cheaper sweetener anyway, so they temporarily gave Pepsico the W, let people forget what 'classic' Coke tasted like, and came back with the formula they were going to make anyway. And it would seem the end result became Pepsico had to form YUM Brands, merge Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and KFC into one company so there were less places asking 'Is Pepsi okay?' when someone tries to order a Coke.
TLDR - We can hope for the best from these people, but I get the perception that Wizards realized their major error and genuinely want to correct it and are succeeding at creating a sense of inertia that going forward things will be more transparent and gamer-friendly
Bayushi_seikuro
Adventurer
A truer statement of the American doctor office, I've not seen recently.
Bayushi_seikuro
Adventurer
Given that the last time I ate at the Pondo-pit was late 90s and they did AYCE steak and chicken with the buffet... yes please.
You clearly never watch them.. that's not their deal
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Well, it's some of their deals. Bob is generally not one of those, though, nor are the folks who were granted interviews last time around.
I thought that's who we were talking about.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I think @Micah Sweet and others don't watch anyone on YouTube and believe them all to be wannabe Kardashians or cable news screaming heads. But yes, you are correct in that Bob isn't that. If he's trying to be anyone, it's the Bob Ross of D&D.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Okay?
The influencers make their living talking about brands and hobbies, basically.
But this is also part of making things right. Rebuilding burned bridges.
“Flipped” is an odd word to use when talking about a community getting what it demanded from wotc annd more… and being okay with that.
Iosue
Legend
Given his subscriber numbers, I was surprised he was on the list for the apology tour. But even he doesn't have a great deal of reach (comparatively) right now, I could see his channel as being the kind that WotC would want to promote. Before the Dark Times, anyway. His tone is always pretty positive, he doesn't court controversy, and he did a deep dive on the Essentials Kit, making videos about each of the quests in Dragon of Icespire Peak, which was essentially free advertising. Also, his channel is very DM-centric, helping people become, and become better, DMs.
The OGL debacle really soured him on D&D, though. So it will be interesting to see if the summit can get him more or less back on board.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
How is summarizing "they will be reluctant to ever criticize WoTC" as "won't criticize WoTC" a strawman? Whatever fine distinction you're making there is lost on me because that sure does seem like a fair summation of what you said.
dave2008
Legend
I think @Micah Sweet was talking more generally about influencers and not Bob or anyone in particular.
I know I share that sentiment. I dislike the general idea of influencers and that is a roadblock for me to even begin watching someone. It isn't about the specific person and whether or not they embody traits I dislike, it is just the concept taints the whole endeavor for me. It is more on the observer end than the presenter end. It is a distaste for advertising really.
mamba
Hero
he was essentially throwing all channels into an ‘influencer’ box, without having watched any. It was then pointed out that the one person this thread was actually about does not belong in that box.
Pretty sure we all feel similarly about the generic influencers, but once we get to specific youtubers we will disagree on what side they fall on.
Is Matt Mercer an influencer? He can make or break a kickstarter by talking about it (I doubt Bob can)… and gets paid handsomely for doing so
bedir than
Hero
I have yet to see a single writer invited, even ones with audiences larger than Bob's (Bob's non OGL stuff gets <20k views) aren't on the invite list.
It's not really a creator's summit so much as a video event
It's not really a creator's summit so much as a video event
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