WotC News - Is this for real???

[Cedric]

I think we are having an English-English vs American-English problem here.

I think on the other side of the pond "Scoundrel" is a much stronger, and more negative word. Think of "hoodlum" or "cad" but somewhat stronger.

Mark

I think it would have a lot to do with age also. Those of us in our mid-30's or older would appreciate it more for Star Wars, at least, I do.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

I would have preferred Complete Thief.

 

[thalmin]

You Sir are a complete scoundrel, a cad, and a bounder.



More seriously I note that there is no mention of such a book in the previews, which seems odd if it's off to printing. OTOH it's not April 1st.

The following is a quote from my thread about Info from the WotC 2007 January to April Catalog

A D&D Supplement
Complete Scoundrel
Mike McArtor and Wesley Schneider
New options for characters that enjoy deception, mischief, skullduggery and intrigue.

Complete Scoundrel is the latest in the "Complete" series of player-friendly supplements that focuses on the scoundrel archetype and provides new rules options for characters who enjoy intrigue, skullduggery, and subterfuge. This book also helps Dungeon Masters run intrigue-laced campaigns.
In addition to presenting various "scoundrel" archetypes for characters, it includes new feats and prestige classes that serve these archetypes, as well as new tricks, spells, equipment, and magic items.
For the Dungeon Master, this book contains information on how to create adventures and campaigns laced with intrigue that will appeal to groups that includes one or more scoundrel-type characters.
January 16, 2007
Hardcover, 160 pages, $29.95/$37.95 CAN

 

[Ranes]

While I like the title, the OED defines a scoundrel as 'an unscrupulous villain', which I'm not sure was the intent of the authors. Then again, it might have been! Its secondary definition is simply 'a rogue', which is probably what they had in mind at WotC. I think vagabond would have worked just as well; again, the OED defines one as ' a wanderer or vagrant, especially an idle one'. That's what my mum used to call me.

 

[Asmor]

Too bad they couldn't also have worked in a little "ledgerdemain."

Would ledgerdemain be the sort of tricks performed by Enron?

 

[Asmor]

While I like the title, the OED defines a scoundrel as 'an unscrupulous villain', which I'm not sure was the intent of the authors. Then again, it might have been! Its secondary definition is simply 'a rogue', which is probably what they had in mind at WotC. I think vagabond would have worked just as well; again, the OED defines one as ' a wanderer or vagrant, especially an idle one'. That's what my mum used to call me.

Personally, vagabond == homeless to me.

I think Scoundrel is very appropriate.

And I'm in the camp of wanting to know what they'll call Complete Divine 2 and Complete Warrior 2.

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

I'm personally looking forward to it. The complete adventurer, while a good book, was a bit muddled with stuff for a wider variety of classes than books like the complete arcane or divine. Rogues and bards should have something aimed squarely at them.

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

Complete Iconic Nerfherder

 

[megamania]

My only issue with the title is ... will it be complete?


Seriously. I think the title fits and works well.

 

[megamania]

Personally, vagabond == homeless to me.

I think Scoundrel is very appropriate.

And I'm in the camp of wanting to know what they'll call Complete Divine 2 and Complete Warrior 2.

The Complete Believer?

The Complete Hack & Slash?