D&D 5E Would you require a roll for this?

[DarkCrisis]

There is a chest and the Rogue rolls and detects a trap. A needle trap that would eject into the thief's hand and poison them.

The Rogue's player says that he borrows the Fighters metal gauntlet (which the needle couldn't penetrate) and safely sets off the trap.

Roll for disarm or not?

 

[Neonchameleon]

A needle trap which would poison the thief under what conditions? Seriously, why is someone trapping their chests like this? And what is the rogue trying to do to the trap?

As presented at the very least I'd give the rogue advantage.

 

[ezo]

A lot really depends on exactly how you rule the trap functions and if the gaunlet actually provides complete protection, or should only offer advantage.

Not knowing further particulars:

• Disarm with disadvantage to not set off the trap. Wearing the gauntlets makes handling the thieves' tools more difficult.
• Allow the save with advantage to represent the added protection the gauntlet does provide. The interior "palm" side of gauntlets was often softer leather, so what protection it provides really depends.

 

[Clint_L]

He's not disarming it, he's cleverly circumventing it. The salient roll was to detect the trap, and it turned out to be a trap that could easily be bypassed once you knew it was there. No roll - reward the player for being clever.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

There is a chest and the Rogue rolls and detects a trap. A needle trap that would eject into the thief's hand and poison them.

The Rogue's player says that he borrows the Fighters metal gauntlet (which the needle couldn't penetrate) and safely sets off the trap.

Roll for disarm or not?

I would allow that to automatically bypass the trap.

Poison needle traps aren't interesting enough in play to merit not allowing players to bypass them with clever play.

 

[aco175]

On one hand there are gaps and overlaying plates in a gauntlet where a needle could possible go through.

The other hand says that he already figured out there is a trap, and it is a needle trap, and he could set it off to bypass it. Could he ask the mage to use mage hand and set it off, or use his 10ft pole to flip the lid open, or just have the barbarian throw the chest against the far wall. I would just let him bypass it and move on.

 

[Reynard]

I would allow that to automatically bypass the trap.

Poison needle traps aren't interesting enough in play to merit not allowing players to bypass them with clever play.

This.

Also, letting players use their brains rather than their character sheets for success encourages them to do so more often, which IMO makes for a better and more engaging game for all.

That said: be careful.what you reward, because you will get more of THAT specifically.

 

[DammitVictor]

If you roll Investigate, you might discover there's a safe behind the painting.

If you actually tell the DM that you are picking the painting up and setting it aside, there's no reason to roll Investigate.

 

[iserith]

The task of disarming the trap has not been declared and so there's nothing to adjudicate as to that. The rogue is betting on the metal gauntlet being sufficient protection against the needle and, as it turns out, it is. No roll here.

 

[leozg]

reward the player for being clever

Good point, but what if the Thief has low Int? Would you allow it, require a test or just say the character is not clever enough to come up with this solution?