X2 *spoilers*

[Aaron2]

It's funny, but I thought that having the dam break slowly actually added to the tension, not took away from it. With that hanging over the heads of everyone, it leant a more dangerous air to the end of the film, without necessarily meaning that everyone had to run around like madmen.

Having something extremely dangerous happen slowly was far more fun than having it happen quickly, IMHO.

It wasn't happening slowly, it was happening in little spurts. When the leaks first started, they quickly stopped spreading. There was little to indicate that the dam would actually break. Of course, everone in the audience knows it will break because, otherwise, why set the scene at a dam? What bothered me was that they would have all sorts of inside scenes then, suddenly, the dam would leak more. Back to inside scenes etc.

The whole dam breaking sequence seemed contrived to set-up the Jean dies scene. As I said before. Lots of good scenes poorly connected together.

Aaron

 

[TiQuinn]

Don't want to sidetrack too much....

...but what's going on in the X-Men comic book nowadays? Last time I read any of them, the whole gang was dealing with a virus that killed mutants, and IIRC, Colossus sacrificed himself in helping find a cure. That was a couple of years ago. Have things gotten better or worse?

 

[KenM]

Oooooh! Camelot 3000 style!

Cool reference. As for the f-16 being downed, the Xjet was ALOT faster. I assumed they were far enough away from the jets. I have to see it agian to see how long between the jets go down and the xjet almost crashes.

 

[WizarDru]

Re: Don't want to sidetrack too much....

...but what's going on in the X-Men comic book nowadays? Last time I read any of them, the whole gang was dealing with a virus that killed mutants, and IIRC, Colossus sacrificed himself in helping find a cure. That was a couple of years ago. Have things gotten better or worse?

About a year-and-a-half ago, Marvel started hiring some quality writers, and proceeded to assign TOO MANY OF THEM to the X-men. Grant Morrison started taking them in some interesting directions, while Joe Casey, IMHO, did not. Many of the X-titles didn't really jibe creatively, and while parts were good, most of it seemed a mess.

The main metaplot is that the X-men have become serious about the future, actually turning the school into something like what you see out of the movie, with hundreds of students. Professor X, under control by his....ummm....well, the malevolent life-force of his unborn twin sister who he killed in the womb, outs himself to the world on live television, and thus outs the X-men. They form an international organization, and begin recruiting all over the world. Oh, Genosha was wiped out by sentinels, killing virtually everyone there. Things started getting a little too weird for me, and with a tight budget, they dropped off my limited list of picks.

The X-titles became more mature, but I'm not sure I was actually ENJOYING them, any longer.

 

[Viking Bastard]

Personally I'm enjoying the X-Men for the first time since Claremont.

That said, the whole thing is very uneven.

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New X-Men is a sci-fi title starring the X-Men written by Grant Morrison.
IMO: Very good.

Uncanny X-Men is the classic style X-Men. Currently written by Chuck Austen (haven't heard of him? Not surprising).
IMO: Mediocre.

Wolverine is being written by Greg Rucka.
IMO: Dunno, hasn't come out yet.

X-Statix is about a celebrity team of mutants. Not fighting evil, but for ratings.
IMO: Uneven. Overall good.

eXiles is a a story about a band of mutants from different realities sliding from world to world mending broken timelines. Written by Judd Winnick.
IMO: Quite good, very humourus.

Xtreme X-Men is written by Claremont himself. More Super-hero oriented than the rest.
IMO: I like the stories told, but Claremont's storytelling style has never jived with me. Mediocre.

Weapon-X is about the Weapon-X program. Written by Frank Tieri.
IMO: Haven't read it.

Soldier X is basically Cable with a new name. Fighting for a better future than the one he was raised in. Written by Karl Bollers.
IMO: Mediocre.

Ultimate X-Men takes place in the Ultimate Universe. Marvel's rebooted universe. Starting the series and mythos from scratch. Written by Mark Millar.
IMO: Very up and down. Some arcs are fairly mediocre, while others are pure brialliance on toast!

 

[jasper]

Aaron so it 45 minutes for the dam to break. How many issues would have been printed covering the same story line. Hmm eighties xmen could get at least 6 if not a whole year of issues out of the movie.

i agree with others there are some many plots good/bad/ etc and different titles of xmen that you don't worry about all the scars and flower child times of Wolfie life. Just pick a good defining part and slap on the movie character.

Xmen is comic book. the movie was comic book that was not as cheesy as some other comic book movies. Capt American, Punisher anyone?

 

[KidCthulhu]

Hey guys. I loved the movie, and had only two thoughts.

1) Why the hell did Logan leave all the kids behind and run off in his (product placement here) car? I know he loves to steal Scott's vehicles, but isn't this just a little irresponsible? He doesn't even mention looking for them.

2) Call me a geek. But when Magneto is pulling all his wonderful stunts during the escape, I had this flash of Gandalf vs. Magneto.

Gandalf: (getting all wrothful) You shall not pass! (Slams down staff)

Magneto: (reaches out, yoinks all the swords, axes and arrowheads from Gandalf's companions, and flings them into the old guy's body. Looks at twitching Gandalf and rolls his eyes). Idiot. (giggles).

It beats talking to moths.

 

[Chun-tzu]

1) Why the hell did Logan leave all the kids behind and run off in his (product placement here) car? I know he loves to steal Scott's vehicles, but isn't this just a little irresponsible? He doesn't even mention looking for them.

That's a fair question. Was it irresponsible? Sure, but he's never claimed to be especially responsible, and they're not his responsibility. He wasn't all that interested in babysitting Iceman, Rogue, or Pyro either. He left the kids in Colossus' care.

Maybe he tried looking for them, but would have had to go through the remaining soldiers to get to them.

But finding Storm and Jean was a good move. They needed to be told what had happened, and they're powerful allies.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Hey guys. I loved the movie, and had only two thoughts.

1) Why the hell did Logan leave all the kids behind and run off in his (product placement here) car? I know he loves to steal Scott's vehicles, but isn't this just a little irresponsible? He doesn't even mention looking for them.

It was not needed, showing the kids get out and in the hands of someone else was all they needed. Sure they could have shown Logon leading them all to a safe house but it would not added anything but time to the movie (okay maybe some fighting). The kids were extras and bystanders, when done with them exit stage left.

 

[Umbran]

1) Why the hell did Logan leave all the kids behind and run off in his (product placement here) car? I know he loves to steal Scott's vehicles, but isn't this just a little irresponsible? He doesn't even mention looking for them.

Well, Logan did see them leaving with Colossus, and even told colossus to look after them. remember the exchange?

Colossus: "I can help you!"
Logan: "Help them! ('cause though you're a real cool character, and I'll need you to toss me around in X3, the cgi required to keep you on screen for any length of time becomes horrifically expensive, you steel skinned freak!)"

Okay, he didn't say that last bit, but he could have