Yes to 4th edition

[DungeonMaster]

There are a large number of people who didn't buy into 3.5 - they stuck with 3rd edition or even earlier editions and beleive it or not, they care about a new edition and no longer care any further about the latest 3.5 lukewarm re-hash or completely left field ideas.

So I say yes to 4th edition - and I decry the false prophets of doom claiming those few bits of information that have been "gleaned" condemn the future of the game.
So miniatures are more important than ever? So what?
So installements will be smaller and more numerous? So what?
None of these are actual edition meat and bones.
Archetypes, spells, vancian magic, items and monsters are the real test of any edition.
There's nothing to indicate the new edition will be worse than 3rd edition - and it certainly can't get a whole lot worse than 3.5 lets face it.

Everyone hopes for something different with a new editon and I sure as hell hope "prestige classes" are buried deep in the 3.5 muck along with the formulaic feats+race+PrC combo.
Lets see the 4 heroic archetype of wizard, warrior, rogue and priest come to the fore.

 

[Melkor]

I sure as hell hope "prestige classes" are buried deep in the 3.5 muck along with the formulaic feats+race+PrC combo.
Lets see the 4 heroic archetype of wizard, warrior, rogue and priest come to the fore.

Somehow I doubt that will happen.

I think the new feats and prestige classes tend to sell books to players looking to tweak their characters.

If 4th Edition is compatible with 3.5 - and/or improves and expands the game in a groundbreaking way, I am all for it.

If not, I think my gaming group and I 'get of the train' at 3.5 with enough WoTC and 3rd party material to keep us gaming until we are in an old folks home....and maybe sometime thereafter.

 

[JustKim]

Yes to 4E as a way to revitalize the D&D brand and to give new players easier access to an increasingly bloated system.

No to 4E as a way to adopt your weird ideas of what D&D should be, because they're wrong and I hate them.

 

[Darrin Drader]

There are a large number of people who didn't buy into 3.5 - they stuck with 3rd edition or even earlier editions and beleive it or not, they care about a new edition and no longer care any further about the latest 3.5 lukewarm re-hash or completely left field ideas.

Edition 3.5 was a drastic improvement over 3.0. It is the deluxe edition of the game, and it makes it a lot easier to do simple things like make a monstrous PCs. It includes the core epic rule s(love them or hate them), and it fixes a lot of balance issues that cropped up after 3.0 had been tested by the masses. It is what 3.0 should have been, yet the amount it diverged from 3.0 is so minor that people could choose to upgrade slowly (or not at all) and still be able to play the game.

So I say yes to 4th edition - and I decry the false prophets of doom claiming those few bits of information that have been "gleaned" condemn the future of the game.
So miniatures are more important than ever? So what?
So installements will be smaller and more numerous? So what?
None of these are actual edition meat and bones.

I agree with you on this, but I think 3.x needs more time before hitting the reset button.

Archetypes, spells, vancian magic, items and monsters are the real test of any edition.

Everyone hopes for something different with a new editon and I sure as hell hope "prestige classes" are buried deep in the 3.5 muck along with the formulaic feats+race+PrC combo.
Lets see the 4 heroic archetype of wizard, warrior, rogue and priest come to the fore.

As these are either sacred cows or the major innovations of 3rd edition, I don't see them going away.

and it certainly can't get a whole lot worse than 3.5 lets face it.

LOL!!!!

 

[Drowbane]

...and it certainly can't get a whole lot worse than 3.5 lets face it....

Never played 2e, did ya?

 

[Lord Mhoram]

There's nothing to indicate the new edition will be worse than 3rd edition - and it certainly can't get a whole lot worse than 3.5 lets face it. .

Well they could go back to 2nd ed.
Edit - Drowbane beat me to it by one minute. Arrgh.


I agree to some extend they could make a system better. But they could also do a whole lot worse.

 

[Pants]

I agree to some extend they could make a system better. But they could also do a whole lot worse.

Indeed. 3e ain't perfect, but it could be a helluva lot worse (*cough2ecough*).

 

[Greg K]

Never played 2e, did ya?

Or 1e which, imo and that of my friends, was worse than 2e

 

[Aus_Snow]

Never played 2e, did ya?

Word.

]So miniatures are more important than ever? So what?

So, many roleplayers don't want a wargame where their RPG was / should be. I know I don't.

So installements will be smaller and more numerous? So what?

So, that might get *very* annoying. Of course, it might well backfire too, which could lead to some even more 'interesting' situations.

 

[shadow]

Never played 2e, did ya?

Actually in many ways, 2e was a step up from 1e. All the combat matrices were unified into a a simple Thac0 score (yes, Thac0 was a lot simpler than the the system that came before it.) And many of the rules were unified. The problem came later in the form of the hundreds of kits introduced in the splatbooks.