ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged: Talking With Daniel D. Fox (World of Game Design)

In 2018, ZWEIHÄNDER Grim & Perilous RPG won Gold Ennie Awards for Best Game and Product of the Year. Since then, the TTRPG moved between publishers, appearing in various forms including a Starter Kit. Charles Dunwoody interviewed Daniel D. Fox, the creator of ZWEIHÄNDER, in 2021. In 2023, I looked at Andrew McMeel Universal as it reduced its TTRPG presence, including the impact on Daniel D. Fox’s position. Flash forward to 2024, and ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged, the latest incarnation of the fantasy horror TTRPG, is kickstarting courtesy of Daniel and World of Game Design. In this interview, Daniel talks about the latest version of his TTRPG, its connection with earlier iterations, who he’s working with, and provides a short update on another project, Bryan Fuller’s Hannibal RPG.

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EGG EMBRY (EGG): Daniel, it has been an interesting road to get the newest version of your signature game. We’ll get into the game’s history in a bit, but before that can you share what fans can expect from the ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged Kickstarter?
DANIEL D. FOX (DANIEL)
: Thanks again for the opportunity, Egg. With ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged, we are taking in nearly six years of playtesting and gamer feedback to remaster ZWEIHÄNDER into a tighter package with expanded content. While some of this work is an editorial exercise, most of the writing has been around all-new content, with never-before-seen professions, ancestries, corruption mechanics, a new Scar system as an alternative to death mechanics, and more. Dejan Mandic marks his return as our interior artist and Yorgos Cotronis as our cover art. Eric Alsandor (Spider00x) is our graphic designer. The design team has also been expanded, with Anna Goldberg and Kate Bullock joining me, Adam J. Rose and Nick O’Hare. A number of other awesome writers have joined in from World of Game Design, too. We anticipate the book coming in at around 445 pages, focusing on usability at the game table. As a part of our Kickstarter, we are also working with adventure writers Stephen Radney-MacFarland (D&D/Pathfinder), Kate Bullock (Magpie Games), Khaldoun Khelil (Vampire/World of Darkness), Elizabeth Chaipraditkul (Magpie Games), Richard August (Steamforged), and other writers yet to be announced to produce a series of 12 one-shot adventures for ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged.

EGG: For those that don’t know, what is the core mechanic for ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged?
DANIEL
: The game uses a d100 skill-based system, where you only roll dice when the stakes are high. In ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged, you aren’t a hero. You instead build your character using a lifepath. They begin their story in session zero as an everyday, normal person (as normal as can be in a medieval fantasy horror game) who lived their life until facing a brush with death. This near-death experience left them with a Scar, one that may be spiritual, physical, or psychological. At the start of your first adventure, the character you created is called a survivor, and inevitably drawn to other survivors who have also faced an NDE. ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged pitches itself as a mild to medium “crunch” game, landing somewhere between D&D and Pathfinder. It revels in having over 100 different classes (what we call professions), with a three-tier leveling system where players unlock multiple classes over the course of their adventures. The fight scene mechanics are fun and tactical (think Final Fantasy Tactics or X-Com) and work with theater of the mind and with minis. Spells are bombastic, where failure to cast properly can quickly change the outcome of a battle. Our unified mechanics works across fight, chase, travel, and intrigue scenes. And when the dice don’t work the way you want them to? You can call upon Fortune to change the outcome, but as with all things in Reforged, it requires sacrifice. This meta-mechanic fuels a Fortune/Misfortune Pool that goes tit for tat between the players and GM.

EGG: What is the feel of ZWEIHÄNDER?
DANIEL
: Themes of survival against the odds and emphasizing ordinary people rather than destined heroes. It explores both human cultures and long-forgotten (but emergent) ancestries, positioning characters as survivors of near-death experiences. Every survivor bears Scars that mark them physically, emotionally, and spiritually, leading to adventures of introspection and epiphany. The game delves into societies dominated by superstition and social stratification. Magic is feared and misunderstood, often leading to accusations of heresy and occultism against those who wield it. Overall, ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged challenges the notion of heroism, presenting a TTRPG where the focus is not on changing the world but on how the world changes the survivors, pushing them to the brink of their morality. It emphasizes low fantasy elements and other dangers like disease, injuries, and the psychological impact of trauma. Compassion and resilience against societal decay become a survivor’s greatest strengths in the game. The narrative underscores the importance of Bonds between survivors, their shared struggles against the encroaching darkness, the personal stories of sacrifice, and the quest for meaning in a world fraught with moral complexities and existential threats. Ultimately, we see ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged as a vehicle for catharsis at the game table.

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EGG: Do you see this as a new edition? A revision? Is it backwards compatible?
DANIEL
: Indeed, it is backward compatible. One of the initial Post-It Notes I put on my design board was “No Wasted Books.” Everything we created would be built for cross-compatibility while repaving mechanics that needed to be updated. The shift from AD&D 1e to AD&D 2e is a great example, as is Pathfinder Second Edition to Pathfinder Second Edition Remastered. While Reforged blazes its own trail apart from the original version, we provide conversion notes inside the book and as a downloadable PDF online to help fans transition their ZWEIHÄNDER characters into survivors for Reforged.

EGG: ZWEIHÄNDER is an award-winning TTRPG with a solid fanbase. Why create Reforged instead of sticking with the, let’s say, “proven formula”?
DANIEL
: Six years is a long time to have the same edition of a game. Keep in mind that the book people are using at their tables was initially written back in 2014, underwent layout in 2017, and published in 2018. As the game has grown, we’ve learned from the community about their experiences with ZWEIHÄNDER. We see where the game had mechanical wrinkles that needed to be ironed out. There are some really fun rules in the game that simply didn’t get the airtime they deserved because they’re so deeply buried in prose. There’s also a lot of heavy editorialization we needed to do, from content to sensitivity and highlighting what makes ZWEIHÄNDER so remarkably different from its inspirations. We also know there is fresh content we want to bring to the core experience. So, instead of creating an entirely different supplement, older ZWEIHÄNDER will not be reprinted by Andrews McMeel, so we can move forward with Reforged.

EGG: Who is working on ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged?
DANIEL
: As someone who solely developed over 95% of the original manuscript, I felt the game needed fresh perspectives to make Reforged better than its predecessor. One of our goals is to push for a better reading and gameplay experience around the table and that can only be achieved by a team of veteran and new writers, ones who bring different gaming and life experiences to the proverbial table.
NOTE: Daniel provided an extensive list of creators, but I'm going to call out the Designers - Daniel D. Fox (Lead), Adam J. Rose, Anna Goldberg, Kate Bullock, and Nick O’Hare - as well as the artists - Dejan Mandic (interiors), Eric Alsandor (layouts), and Yorgos Cotronis (cover artist).

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EGG: ZWEIHÄNDER has been compared to other games including Warhammer Fantasy RPG. Since Dungeons & Dragons pulled from Chainmail and other wargames to create this entire gaming category, TTRPGs have a rich tradition of enhancing concepts from earlier products which results in new games. When you reread the first draft of ZWEIHÄNDER, what game(s) most influenced it? While working on Reforged, do you still feel their influence?
DANIEL
: Without a doubt, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay was influential in the mechanics development of ZWEIHÄNDER. You can see it in its class-based system. But ZWEIHÄNDER shrugs off its dark “heroic fantasy” inspirations. ZWEIHÄNDER implies that it’s not a zero-to-hero game, but instead, it’s zero to one. This is where we drift from our game being a simple retroclone to becoming its own thing. For Reforged, we wrote up our own Appendix N: a series of lenses that all narrative and mechanics must pass muster for.
NOTE: Daniel shared a long list of inspirations of which I'm going to highlight a few examples like Kentaro Miura’s Berserk inspiring the dark fantasy elements, the Thirty Years' War offering historic accounts, and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay influencing the profession-based system.

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EGG: To that end, ZWEIHÄNDER inspired other games. You’re offering an updated gaming open gaming license so third parties can create ZWEIHÄNDER content, correct?
DANIEL
: While Grim & Perilous Studios has maintained a community-based content library at DriveThruRPG for three years, we are opening up the licensing. In the wake of the OGL, this is the best approach for everyone. Akin to how MÖRK BORG and Dragonbane have done with their licensing, our third-party license is open and free. It takes zero dollars out of creators’ pockets, makes no claim to their creations, and allows them to monetize and distribute beyond DriveThruRPG.

EGG: ZWEIHÄNDER started life at your Grim & Perilous Studios before moving with you when you started working for Andrews McMeel Publishing. Who has the rights to publish the property now?
DANIEL
: While I was working at Andrews McMeel Publishing (AMP), I brought the game to them as an author, as they had the right to publish and license with my approval for other games (like Flames of Freedom, Fever Knights RPG, and the phenomenal Blackbirds The Extinguishing). When I left AMP, I took the rights with me. Given that ZWEIHÄNDER’s fandom is enthusiastic about the game, I knew I could not support the community alone. It had grown too big for one person to manage. Around that time, I met Zac Goins and Jared Nielsen. We had a long courtship as we got to know each other. We played some games, went to a few conventions, and got to know one another. We sealed the deal last year as I sold the rights to World of Game Design, and I now sit on the board of directors.

EGG: Congratulations on being able to exercise your rights. That’s great news. Why was World of Game Design a good fit for the latest version of ZWEIHÄNDER?
DANIEL
: World of Game Design works with creators from independent to mass, from Stockholm Kartell to Tuesday Knight Games, and Marvel to Modiphius. They operate in print, distribution, Kickstarter consultation, and conventioneering. ZWEIHÄNDER has found a home, and World of Game Design has bold plans for the IP. But most of all, they are passionate creators, love games, and deeply care about their people and partners. What else could a creator ask for?

EGG: Circling back to Grim & Perilous Studios, they're going through a transformation as reported in Geek Native's "Grim & Perilous Studios winds down and is replaced by Cannon Otter Studio". How will that impact ZWEIHANDER's community content?
DANIEL
: We have heard numerous times from our fans that the Grim & Perilous Library needs to be more closely aligned with ZWEIHANDER's core game so that creators can get the halo effect of the broader ZWEIHANDER audience. At Andrews McMeel Publishing, there just wasn't that opportunity due to the way the publisher structured the deal. This is why Grim & Perilous Studios became a separate entity owned by Adam Rose during ZWEIHANDER's publishing run with AMP. Once I sold the rights to ZWEIHANDER to World of Game Design, Adam and I had a discussion about how to best service fans and third-party creators with this new deal. We then made a strategic decision to bring the Grim & Perilous Library under the umbrella of the World of Game Design.
As a part of this migration, World of Game Design has opened the door for creators to fundraise and distribute their ZWEIHANDER products anywhere with a free third-party license program. Despite this pivot, Adam and Nick helped design ZWEIHANDER Reforged. Dejan Mandic has joined World of Game Design as a full-time illustrator. But best of all? I have the privilege of gaming with Adam and Nick in our weekly ZWEIHANDER game in Kansas City. We've known each other for over 15 years, they are both dear friends, and I am excited about their future with the new studio. In fact, they just released their first Kickstarter, called Teenage Oddessey, using the Mark of the Odd engine.

EGG: I'm glad to hear it works out for the fans and the creators. That's great news for Dejan Mandic!
Beyond this project, what else are you working on?
DANIEL
: Adam Rose and I are working hard on Gangs of Kahabro, a campaign setting I created during my AD&D days but have been playing for the last seven years using ZWEIHÄNDER. It’s a medieval urban gang warfare setting in the same vein as the film The Warriors, and we are finally bringing it to publication for Reforged in 2025. Zac Goins is also heading development on Dark Astral, a far-flung strange future analogous to the Old Testament. I just wrapped up editorial work on Bryan Fuller’s Hannibal RPG, designed by Zac Goins, Zack Goings (ShadowZack), Andrew Hindenberg, Andrew Bishkinskyi, and John Baltisberger. World of Game Design is publishing Hannibal RPG later this year. It’s dripping with investigative gore, inner darkness, and a 12-course game that’ll please every Fannibal’s palate.

EGG: Thanks for talking with me. Where can fans learn more about this project?
DANIEL
: While ZWEIHÄNDER Reforged is currently in prelaunch on Kickstarter, we encourage anyone curious about the game to head to our Discord. Our entire team is there and actively sharing out art and mechanics of Reforged ahead of release.

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Well, I've decided not to back after doing some more research. There's not one big thing that turns me off, but lots of little stuff that adds up, like ...

... a non-commital "it's kind of satirical, but we made sure to change it for Reforged" reaction about the First Edition Gnome on discord that didn't really engage with the criticism.
... a totally unrelated article by Daniel Fox on medium.com that kind of gives me the creeps.
... acting is if Zweihänder had always been about diversity and inclusiveness, when clearly, the first edition was more about being "edgy". I'm fine with changing your stance - in this case, I'd advocate it -, but you should be honest about where you came from. It kind of makes we wonder if, were Zweihänder to change its political stance once again, all of that current stuff would suddenly have been "satire".
... everything I'm reading by Daniel Fox (including here in this thread) sounds like lawyer-approved ad-speech. There's nothing inherently wrong about this, but I just don't like it.
... Richard Iorio apparently not being delighted about how his intellectual property was handled in Flames of Freedom.

On its own, none of this would be a dealbreaker, but taken together, it's just enough to discourage me (even with Elizabeth Chaipraditkul being involved as a scenario authour ...).
 

I’m a contributor in this project and from what I know yes there will be, as well as Foundry.

(At least, this is the rumor floating around about the kickstarter, nothing is set in stone about that so I might have spoken too soon)
Thanks. Since I only play online, a system without Roll20 support is pretty much useless. Zwei and FoF are well-supported on Roll20.
 


Well, I've decided not to back after doing some more research. There's not one big thing that turns me off, but lots of little stuff that adds up, like ...

... a non-commital "it's kind of satirical, but we made sure to change it for Reforged" reaction about the First Edition Gnome on discord that didn't really engage with the criticism.
... a totally unrelated article by Daniel Fox on medium.com that kind of gives me the creeps.
... acting is if Zweihänder had always been about diversity and inclusiveness, when clearly, the first edition was more about being "edgy". I'm fine with changing your stance - in this case, I'd advocate it -, but you should be honest about where you came from. It kind of makes we wonder if, were Zweihänder to change its political stance once again, all of that current stuff would suddenly have been "satire".
... everything I'm reading by Daniel Fox (including here in this thread) sounds like lawyer-approved ad-speech. There's nothing inherently wrong about this, but I just don't like it.
... Richard Iorio apparently not being delighted about how his intellectual property was handled in Flames of Freedom.

On its own, none of this would be a dealbreaker, but taken together, it's just enough to discourage me (even with Elizabeth Chaipraditkul being involved as a scenario authour ...).

Flames of Freedom suffered from a too-modern worldview. You would be better off using Colonial Gothic for setting, and FoF for rules.

I'm not supporting the kickstarter because the only details concern fluff: more professions, more spell, more creatures.

There's zero word on what the changes are to the rules, and the fact that they are 'backward compatible' suggests that they are just a few optional tweaks.

This feels a bit more like a hustle for more operating funds.
 

DoctorPip

Explorer
everything I'm reading by Daniel Fox (including here in this thread) sounds like lawyer-approved ad-speech. There's nothing inherently wrong about this, but I just don't like it.

Witnessing the topic, I'm inclined to agree that there's a lot of carefully worded posts in this topic from either Daniel Fox or those who've announced themselves as his friends, all with the goal of downplaying or muddying his past transgressions. This does not express accountability or a learned lesson to me.

In conjunction with the various dishonesties from Daniel himself, like the games' original design intent, little seems to have changed.
 

Witnessing the topic, I'm inclined to agree that there's a lot of carefully worded posts in this topic from either Daniel Fox or those who've announced themselves as his friends, all with the goal of downplaying or muddying his past transgressions. This does not express accountability or a learned lesson to me.
Throwing this out there, but I see two issues with this

1. People used to be upset with how he spoke. He changed how he spoke. Now people are upset he words things carefully. This is a near impossible line to walk for anyone, I would say.

2. If I had a kickstarter going and knew people were going to immediately run forward to throw shade, I would word things carefully as well.

But that's just me
 

DoctorPip

Explorer
Throwing this out there, but I see two issues with this

1. People used to be upset with how he spoke. He changed how he spoke. Now people are upset he words things carefully. This is a near impossible line to walk for anyone, I would say.

2. If I had a kickstarter going and knew people were going to immediately run forward to throw shade, I would word things carefully as well.

But that's just me

1. I am not "people". My mind has not changed. Speaking for myself? I wanted him to speak with honesty, not change his patterns.

2. The "shade" is accounting for things he definitively did. I think someone who feels bad and acknowledges their mistakes would get more good will than someone tiptoeing around their past.

But that's just me and what I find logical.
 

1. I am not "people". My mind has not changed. Speaking for myself? I wanted him to speak with honesty, not change his patterns.

2. The "shade" is accounting for things he definitively did. I think someone who feels bad and acknowledges their mistakes would get more good will than someone tiptoeing around their past.

But that's just me and what I find logical.
I say people because I've seen others express a similar sentiment in this forum.

Again, being careful to me is a logical choice considering the circumstances, but its ok that you don't see it that way!
 

DoctorPip

Explorer
I say people because I've seen others express a similar sentiment in this forum.

Again, being careful to me is a logical choice considering the circumstances, but its ok that you don't see it that way!

Sure. I imagine quite a few people also share the sentiment that they wanted a change in attitude rather than phrasing.

And don't worry, I need no assurance that its good to favor honesty and accountability over carefully worded deflection and dishonesty. You'll have to pardon me, however, for not asserting that the reverse is true.
 

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