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Sunseeker
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It all comes down to how you interpret "permanent effect" as a permanent effect ie: the outcome being permanent. Or a permanent effect ie: the magic generating the effect becomes permanent.
Really doesn't matter to me which way you do things. The former can lead to power-gaming shenanigans. The latter can lead to metagaming (both on the DM side and the player side). So just pick your poison. I typically run things the first way (the result is permanent) because it's a somewhat more worthy outcome for a 9th level spell. Being able to be undone by a 3rd level spell (Dispel Magic) with a DC of 19.
Really doesn't matter to me which way you do things. The former can lead to power-gaming shenanigans. The latter can lead to metagaming (both on the DM side and the player side). So just pick your poison. I typically run things the first way (the result is permanent) because it's a somewhat more worthy outcome for a 9th level spell. Being able to be undone by a 3rd level spell (Dispel Magic) with a DC of 19.