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    Quote Originally Posted by SkidAce View Post
    I must say, not sure what new rules will bring, 1 DM/1 player is something you can already do.

    And its how I taught my kids. (they are sperated by 6 years of age, so I did it twice...)
    In 5E? I would like to play PF1 AP with my daughter but it's quite difficult to adjust combat when it's clearly for 4-5 players. I guess I could give her superpowers but it won't be the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abstruse View Post
    Frankly, I'm more invested in trying to figure out when the announcement will be since there's not a clear-cut slot on the schedule. There's a concert starting in about 45 minutes and, based on the number of musicians, that'll be going for several hours. Right now, the main channel isn't even live and I can't see them announcing the new big book on their equivalent of ESPN-3.
    Ugh, I knew I should've gotten that second cup of coffee, converted the time the wrong way. Concert's not until 7PM Central (so four hours from now) and it's the only thing on the main channel schedule. There's not even some kind of wrap-up scheduled that I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abstruse View Post
    Ugh, I knew I should've gotten that second cup of coffee, converted the time the wrong way. Concert's not until 7PM Central (so four hours from now) and it's the only thing on the main channel schedule. There's not even some kind of wrap-up scheduled that I can see.
    If I remember correctly, the event ends at 8 pm PST (10 Central), and Nathan Stewart teased that the "Big Announcement" would be at 8:45 (no time zone given) to mess with Game of Thrones viewers. It was also noted that the announcement would not appear on the VOD. Not sure how much of that is legit information or trolling on his part.

    I do expect it to just be a video reveal like they did for Dungeon of the Mad Mage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vecna00 View Post
    If I remember correctly, the event ends at 8 pm PST (10 Central), and Nathan Stewart teased that the "Big Announcement" would be at 8:45 (no time zone given) to mess with Game of Thrones viewers. It was also noted that the announcement would not appear on the VOD. Not sure how much of that is legit information or trolling on his part.

    I do expect it to just be a video reveal like they did for Dungeon of the Mad Mage.
    For context, they were talking about the Game of Thrones finally airing on the East Coast...which is 6 pm PST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester David View Post
    Reporting things from Spoilers & Swag without a link is always dubious to me. It always turns things into a game of Telephone. Posters here have a loooong history of hearing things they want to hear.

    If that is the third hardcover, then it will revealed be the end of con video around the concert (like Dungeon of the Mad Mage was), wrapping up the event at 7 PST. They've mentioned it will be just before Game of Thrones.
    Which is a little anticlimactic as it means we know about it, but get no real information beyond a couple minute video.
    Take it for what it is worth, per Reddit at the time:

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/330660672?t=01h01m58s

    1 hour 2 minutes in, as a part of his Spoilers and Swag show, Nathan Stewart "announced" in a way that doesn't reveal any real details that there will be a new D&D setting book. Here's what he said in the stream:

    "Next year for our annual releases I can confirm there will be a setting book. A new setting book. A book that we have not created that is for a D&D setting. Yes. That question comes up a lot. I'm not telling you which one, but I am confirming that, because we don't always do that. That is not always a given."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester David View Post
    Stewart did said they wanted to use Curse of Strahd as the template for future settings, with an adventure as part of the setting. The fewer racial and class and monster options that are added, the longer the adventure will be.
    An adventure will almost certainly be the centerpiece of the book.


    The catch is, they don't need to do a book on Sigil. That book already exists.

    If doing Planescape, they need to add something beyond just the fluff. As fluff is edition neutral. Mechanical faction details and rules for reputation in that city are something that isn't featured in a 2e book.
    They don't seem interested in doing the giant books of setting lore like they did in 2e and 3e.
    WotC appears to have solved for setting sbooks for 5E in Guildmasters Guide to Ravnica: 5E applicable crunch for players, DM aids, and a ton of monsters. Basically, a PHB add-on, a MM add-on, and a DMG add-on. That was the impression Stewart gave when talking about the reception of that book, at any rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
    Take it for what it is worth, per Reddit at the time:

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/330660672?t=01h01m58s
    Twitch sez: "Sorry. Unless youve got a time machine, that content is unavailable."

    But the quote does sound pretty definitive. But, again, he could be referring to a PDF. I'm not willing to put down any money that plans haven't changed or schedules shifted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
    WotC appears to have solved for setting sbooks for 5E in Guildmasters Guide to Ravnica: 5E applicable crunch for players, DM aids, and a ton of monsters. Basically, a PHB add-on, a MM add-on, and a DMG add-on. That was the impression Stewart gave when talking about the reception of that book, at any rate.
    That will work well for a setting like Dark Sun. If they make that setting akin to Guildmaster's Guide it will work well. That would be my guess, but that really requires psionics to function.

    But there's not nearly as many monsters for Planescape that haven't been done. There's very little applicable crunch for players (apart from races we've seen). There's less to fill out the book, unless they go for a small 160-pages.
    Sigil would work better as a full adventure, like Dragon Heist. Big adventure and small gazetteer. Heck, before Dragon Heist was announced, a lot of people were predicting that. People have been predicting Planescape for three years now...

    Quote Originally Posted by bedir than View Post
    A majority of players don't know the Guild exists. A vast majority of players never experienced 2e.
    Right. And that vast majority won't give an eff about a classic setting.

    Quote Originally Posted by bedir than View Post
    Just like they didn't need to release Curse of Strahd because the i-series exists; they don't need to do any new setting book.
    Updating Castle Ravenloft is not the same thing as updating the Ravenloft campaign setting.
    They can update The Great Modron March without "updating" Planescape by making it self contained (as I suggest above in a response to another poster).

    Quote Originally Posted by Abstruse View Post
    True, but by the same logic, we didn't need a book on Waterdeep. Or Chult or Barovia or Eberron or...
    And we only got one on Waterdeep because of an adventure than was mostly adventure with a very minor section on the city.

    If we get a Planescape/ Sigil book you can also expect a comparable 24 pages on the city and 200 pages of adventure. Give or take. It likely won't just be a setting book like we saw previously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abstruse View Post
    People still want setting books because they want to see how they're updated to the new edition and the current timeline. They want not just what already exists but to see it updated.
    Here's the thing... 100% of Planescape in 2e is still applicable. Literally nothing in Eberron changed because of a timeline change, because the timeline didn't change. The only setting that needs an update is the Realms.

    That's why the PDF approach worked for Eberron, when they released Wayfinder's Guide. It updated the crunch for people who already had the books and were fans of the setting, letting them use material they already owned. That will work just fine for Dragonlance and Spelljammer and even Planescape.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abstruse View Post
    And there's also a LOT of people playing today who weren't even born when the first Planescape boxed set came out. They might not be interested in reading a book older than they are written for an edition they never played written in a style that's not remotely close to the current style RPG books are written in.
    True.
    But then why would said audience care about a new book written about a setting from an edition they never played? Why do they care?

    WotC updates settings for the old fans, because the new fans have zero attachment to the worlds. The world of Critical Role and the Tal'dorei Campaign Setting are ten times as appealing as Eberron or Planescape to the new fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester David View Post
    True.
    But then why would said audience care about a new book written about a setting from an edition they never played? Why do they care?

    WotC updates settings for the old fans, because the new fans have zero attachment to the worlds. The world of Critical Role and the Tal'dorei Campaign Setting are ten times as appealing as Eberron or Planescape to the new fans.
    Actually, you said it. Critical Role. And Relics and Rarities and all the other big streamers and celebrity D&D players. The people on those shows talk about the old settings in interviews and on social media, driving up interest for them for new fans who've never had a chance to experience them. New fans who aren't as interested at digging up 35 year old Dragonlance modules but really wants to see what Krynn's all about after Joe Manganiello talks about it.
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    @Jester David

    Try this on for size, the context suggested a hardcover like Ravnica, but time will tell:

    https://youtu.be/o6Ipq4S_TrY

    I can see a whole book like GGtR about Sigil, particularly one with a lot of unique stat blocks for NPCs and much more proper Gazeeter material: a lot of playable races not seen yet, and Mearls floated a lot of subclass ideas last year that would fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
    @Jester David

    Try this on for size, the context suggested a hardcover like Ravnica, but time will tell:

    https://youtu.be/o6Ipq4S_TrY
    Thanks.
    And Steward immediately describes Ravnica as "one of the best selling adventures on DnDBeyond".

    He then says he doesn't know if he'll do any more settings "this year" because they wanted to see how Ravnica was received (as they plan their schedule like a year to 18 months in advance).

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    (I don't know where your quote came from... Could it have been early 2018 and referring to Ravnica?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
    I can see a whole book like GGtR about Sigil, particularly one with a lot of unique stat blocks for NPCs and much more proper Gazeeter material: a lot of playable races not seen yet, and Mearls floated a lot of subclass ideas last year that would fit.
    If we were expecting subclasses, we would have seen them in January to test them. That's about when we saw the Ravnica subclasses last year.
    We could still see some races to test, as the Ravnica ones were out in July IIRC. But so far we've only seen the artificer, which isn't ready and they haven't even started surveying for. That's a 2020 release at the earliest...
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