Ranger w/2 bastard swords

[Lord Sessadore]

Still, imagine someone swinging two 4-foot long pieces of sharp metal at you. And he's doing so with skill. Pretty scary in my books.

Also, you could make them shorter, and a little curved, and sharp only on one edge, and describe your hide armor as a really thick silk shirt, and voila! You have yourself some anime

 

[Felon]

Oh, it fits the concept just fine. He's supposed to be a scary-ass mofo in an urban setting, and someone who is whipping around two six-foot long swords is pretty damn scary.

The cost of one feat for, in essence, +1 damage and +2 on critical is pretty good, and it stacks nicely with Weapon Focus and 2-weapon fighting. Switch my multiclass from Rogue to Warlord and I can grab Intimidate as a trained skill so I don't need to spend a feat on that, not to mention Inspiring Word 1/encounter.

Oh yeah. He bad.

Effective doesn't necessarily equate to cheesy. Sounds fine.

 

[kevtar]

It costs a feat.

What feat is that? I know that Bastard Swords are Superior, Versatile weapons - meaning that they can be wielded one-handed. However, they don't have the "off-weapon" property, so unless there is a feat that overrides that distinction, I'm not sure a Ranger can two-weapon wield Bastard Swords. Can anyone clarify that for me?

Thanks

 

[abyssaldeath]

Two-bladed fighting style lets you wield a one-handed weapon in your off-hand.

 

[Ahrimon]

Ranger two weapon fighting style allows them to weild a one handed weapon as an off hand weapon.

 

[Plane Sailing]

or angry monitor lizards being swung by their tails...

Now THAT would be a really cool style of two weapon fighting!

 

[jdpacheco]

There's no, on paper, reason why this better than two Battleaxes... Or two Warhammers... Or even two Flails... Add to that, one less feat for any of those...

Actually, I really like the mental image of the Dual Wielding Ranger with Flails...

 

[Nifft]

my multiclass (...) to Warlord and I can grab Intimidate as a trained skill so I don't need to spend a feat on that, not to mention Inspiring Word 1/encounter.

1/day, rather.

It's not cheesy, it brings the damage output of the two-weapon ranger up to what the archer ranger can do with a longbow.

True.

It is visually rather unappealing to me, though not as bad as monkey gripping two greatswords in 3e.

That was never legal.

Effective doesn't necessarily equate to cheesy. Sounds fine.

Agree.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Hypersmurf]

That was never legal.

Well, it hinges on your reading of "one weapon".

When it said "You can use one melee weapon that is one size larger than you in one hand", did "one weapon" refer to the restriction that "This feat can be taken multiple times, each time with a different weapon"? Or did it refer to only wielding a single piece of metal at any given time?

If the former, then by choosing Monkey Grip [Greatsword], the one weapon one size larger than you is "Greatsword". You can now wield "Greatsword" in one hand, and since you have two hands, you can wield two Greatswords.

If the latter, then by choosing Monkey Grip [Greatsword], you now have the ability to wield one greatsword in one hand, but a second greatsword is beyond the feat's scope.

-Hyp.

 

[Nifft]

Well, it hinges on your reading of "one weapon".

When it said "You can use one melee weapon that is one size larger than you in one hand", did "one weapon" refer to the restriction that "This feat can be taken multiple times, each time with a different weapon"? Or did it refer to only wielding a single piece of metal at any given time?

If the former, then by choosing Monkey Grip [Greatsword], the one weapon one size larger than you is "Greatsword". You can now wield "Greatsword" in one hand, and since you have two hands, you can wield two Greatswords.

If the latter, then by choosing Monkey Grip [Greatsword], you now have the ability to wield one greatsword in one hand, but a second greatsword is beyond the feat's scope.

Are we reading the same feat?

1/ It's not weapon specific -- there is no Monkey Grip [Greatsword].
2/ It doesn't let you use a two-handed weapon in one hand, just an oversized one-handed weapon.
3/ Off-hand is explicitly prohibited.

Cheers, -- N