Converting prehistoric animals

[Shade]

Sounds good. Let's start with eryops.

Let's look at Medium amphibians and compare them to a Medium croc to get stats.

Killer Frog: Str 16, Dex 12, Con 18, Int 1, Wis 10, Cha 10
Giant Toad: Str 10, Dex 15, Con 12, Int 2, Wis 9, Cha 5
Crocodile: Str 19, Dex 12, Con 17, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 2

Also compare to dimetrodon: Str 18, Dex 6, Con 17, Int 1, Wis 10, Cha 10

So maybe Str 17, Dex 10-12, Con 15-17, Int 1, Wis 11, Cha 2+?

 

[demiurge1138]

Dex 10, Con 17, Cha 5 (?)

 

[Whitemouse]

Has the Woolly Mammoth and Mastodon been done?

 

[Shade]

Added to Homebrews using the suggested ability scores.

Has the Woolly Mammoth and Mastodon been done?

Both are available in official products; woolly mammoth in Frostburn, and mastodon in Monster Manual III. We've done a few similar prehistoric pachyderms

Ambelodon

Anacus

 

[freyar]

Eryops is looking good so far. Want to bump the bite damage up a little from the croc bite? Either 1d10 or 2d6?

 

[RavinRay]

Dex 10, Con 17, Cha 5 (?)

Dex 10 since it's not an agile swimmer or crawler either.
Con 17 seems fair when compared to the giant toad, it seems a sturdier amphibian.
Cha 5 this would be the upper limit for me since its lifestyle doesn't seem to need a high Cha.

Mastodonsaurus and Platyhystrix would be fun to convert, especially the latter.

 

[Shade]

Eryops is looking good so far. Want to bump the bite damage up a little from the croc bite? Either 1d10 or 2d6?

I like 1d10.

Mastodonsaurus and Platyhystrix would be fun to convert, especially the latter.

Yeah, sounds fun.

Improved grab/swallow whole?

 

[freyar]

Definitely seems like it should have Imp Grab and Swallow Whole...

 

[RavinRay]

Yeah, improved grab and swallow whole. Those critters' heads were basically all mouth.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Eryops’ eye sockets were large and directed upward. The body was low to the ground and supported by short, massive limbs. The tail was short, suggesting the animal was not a fast or powerful swimmer. The flat skull with the large eyes and nostrils placed on the top of the head are suggestive that Eryops used stealth for hunting, much like a modern crocodile, and sat quietly in the water waiting for prey with only its eyes and nostrils visible above the water.

Borrow this?

*A crocodile gains a +4 racial bonus on Hide checks when in the water. Further, a crocodile can lie in the water with only its eyes and nostrils showing, gaining a +10 cover bonus on Hide checks.

Skills: 5
Hide 3, Listen 1, Spot 1?

Feats: 1
Alertness?