I don't expect this will surprise anyone - Captain America isn't staying dead.
Captain America, thought dead, comes back to life - CNN.com
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Well, of course he didn't stay dead.
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Mouseferatu
Hero
Well...
Point the first: I'm surprised it took them this long. Kudos for that.
Point the second: I'm not upset by this. When written properly, Captain America--and Steve Rogers--stand for a lot that this country ought to aspire to. People make fun of the "boy scout" heroes like Cap and Superman, but not only do I think they're essential to have around, I think they're more important--not necessarily as popular, not necessarily as interesting, but more culturally important--than the darker folks like Batman or Wolverine.
I'm glad to have Steve back.
Point the first: I'm surprised it took them this long. Kudos for that.
Point the second: I'm not upset by this. When written properly, Captain America--and Steve Rogers--stand for a lot that this country ought to aspire to. People make fun of the "boy scout" heroes like Cap and Superman, but not only do I think they're essential to have around, I think they're more important--not necessarily as popular, not necessarily as interesting, but more culturally important--than the darker folks like Batman or Wolverine.
I'm glad to have Steve back.
Mercutio01
First Post
I'm not surprised. I like Cap, and it was obvious that Marvel had a hole in it, but I've all but given up on standard Marvel titles (Astonishing X-Men and the Punisher titles are the only ones I collect from Marvel, the rest of my pull box is Dark Horse, Image, and Vertigo--and KODT), so this has little to no effect on me personally.
Traycor
Explorer
Well said!
In other news the sun rose this morning and water is wet.
When you have cloning, magic, reality warping psionics, time travel, alternate timelines, alternate realities, ultra-tech, literal Deus Ex Machinas and any other plot device you'd care to imagine. It is impossible to ever kill off a character forever, unless they are so insignificant that nobody remembers they exist and even then it's often just a matter of time. Because someone somewhere for some unknown reason is a devoted fan.
Death doesn't even get to count superheroes towards it's totals.
When you have cloning, magic, reality warping psionics, time travel, alternate timelines, alternate realities, ultra-tech, literal Deus Ex Machinas and any other plot device you'd care to imagine. It is impossible to ever kill off a character forever, unless they are so insignificant that nobody remembers they exist and even then it's often just a matter of time. Because someone somewhere for some unknown reason is a devoted fan.
Death doesn't even get to count superheroes towards it's totals.
Rhun
First Post
QFT!
I've always been a big fan of Captain America. Glad to see they also have a big-budget movie in the works...I just hope they do a good job with it.
Relique du Madde
Adventurer
Sucks to be Bucky. I wonder what he's going to change his Super Hero Identity to now that the Real Captain America Is Back.
fanboy2000
Adventurer
He was dead longer than Superman.
I'm a tad torn.
On the one hand, its hard to let a valuable piece of IP lay dormant when it could be making you money. And Cap is one of Marvel's most iconic characters, to be sure.
OTOH, so few of their (OK, DC's too) characters actually stay dead. It would be nice of them to retire an icon and have someone pick up the mantle. Marvel has done analogous storylines to this when Cap was forced to retire for this reason or that, but with the relatively recent revelation that Steve Rodgers wasn't the first/only "successful" Captain America of some kind - see Isaiah Bradley, the black Cap; Jeffery Mace aka Patriot aka Cap #3; USAgent, etc.- the Captain America identity seems somehow ideal for a concept that "passes the torch," like the Phantom of pulp fiction, or even DC's Green Lantern.
I think, in the end, he should have stayed dead, and Marvel could have given the world a new, fresh take on an American idealist with super powers. Even if he wasn't the same, it would be interesting from a storytelling point of view to show him struggle and learn, to see what he could emulate and what he had to do his (or her?) own way.
On the one hand, its hard to let a valuable piece of IP lay dormant when it could be making you money. And Cap is one of Marvel's most iconic characters, to be sure.
OTOH, so few of their (OK, DC's too) characters actually stay dead. It would be nice of them to retire an icon and have someone pick up the mantle. Marvel has done analogous storylines to this when Cap was forced to retire for this reason or that, but with the relatively recent revelation that Steve Rodgers wasn't the first/only "successful" Captain America of some kind - see Isaiah Bradley, the black Cap; Jeffery Mace aka Patriot aka Cap #3; USAgent, etc.- the Captain America identity seems somehow ideal for a concept that "passes the torch," like the Phantom of pulp fiction, or even DC's Green Lantern.
I think, in the end, he should have stayed dead, and Marvel could have given the world a new, fresh take on an American idealist with super powers. Even if he wasn't the same, it would be interesting from a storytelling point of view to show him struggle and learn, to see what he could emulate and what he had to do his (or her?) own way.
Traycor
Explorer
The concept of Captain America does lend itself to passing the torch, but the backstory of Steve Rogers is very compelling. Besides Bucky, it's hard to find someone else that is a man out of time from a golden age of patriotism.
I haven't read any of the Cap books with Bucky carrying the mantle, but my guess would be that it seems like just a shadow of the real Cap. Same back story, same mantle, different person.
What Captain America stands for is iconic, but Steve the character is fairly unique in and of himself.
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