Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the fey

[demiurge1138]

Loses spell-like abilities only, perhaps? If they lose all of their abilities, we might was well just make them a creature and not a template.

 

[freyar]

Yes, that sounds right.

Also, the "unthinking" bit makes me think that there should be an Int penalty, though I could see compensating with a Cha boost.

 

[Shade]

Agreed to losing spell-like abilities only.

I could see an Int penalty, or even a set Int somewhere in the 5-7 range.

Cha boost sounds good.

 

[demiurge1138]

Int penalty of -6 would be punishing enough that it'd drop most fey into the 5-7 range. I'm generally not a fan of set abilities in my templates.

 

[Shade]

That works for me.

 

[freyar]

-6 Int, -2 Wis, +4 Cha? Just throwing in the Wis penalty since it feels right, but I'm ok to drop it. Definitely agree with demiurge about set abilities.

 

[Shade]

Added to Homebrews.

I added the unnatural aura of wraiths, as I thought it seemed appropriate for such a perversion of the natural world. If you'd rather drop it, that's fine.

 

[freyar]

Is it normal to have incorporeal touch damage advance with size? Just seems funny, that's all, though I guess it makes sense for balance reasons.

What needs to go after "Incorporeal Touch (Ex):"?

What do we think about damage vs drain? I could go for drain, but I wonder if it might be too much.

CR is going to be tough with the loss of SLAs, isn't it?

 

[demiurge1138]

Damage, not drain is fine by me. Increasing damage by size is standard, viz dread wraith.

I like unnatural aura.

 

[freyar]

Damage it is, then. I also like unnatural aura.