Special Conversion Thread: Aboleths

[freyar]

Same ratio drop, I think.

 

[bykov]

Slime & Mucus Cloud Save DCs should both be DC21 (10 + 1/2 HD + CON mod).

Enslave save DC is good at a 20. (10 + 1/2 HD + CHA mod).

 

[bykov]

I updated the psi-like abilities, but have a question.

The standard aboleth has a lower manifester level for a few of its powers (ego whip, id insinuation). Do we want to keep these the same level for the greater aboleth, bump them by the same ratio (6 lower than normal manifester level), or drop the lower manifester level altogether.

Since we use the SRD as a reference I would keep them in linear respect (HD +/- X). In my opinion, the variable manifester levels are ridiculous and the manifester level should all equal the HD or be linearly respective. But that is me.

Bykov.

 

[bykov]

Knowledgeable....

The more I am looking at knowledgeable the more I am noticing it is front heavy, meaning the weaker the greater aboleth, the more benefit it gets.

How about something more like:

Knowledgeable (Ex): A greater aboleth receives a bonus to all knowledge checks equal to 1/2 its HD.

Just a thought.

Bykov.

 

[freyar]

Well, you definitely want to say it acts as if it has ranks, since Knowledge is trained only. I could go either way, I guess, though I want to standardize with the thendar, which isn't so many HD. And I think DMs doing advancement can scale abilities themselves, right?

 

[Shade]

Well, you definitely want to say it acts as if it has ranks, since Knowledge is trained only. I could go either way, I guess, though I want to standardize with the thendar, which isn't so many HD. And I think DMs doing advancement can scale abilities themselves, right?

Indeed...the ranks are key, since Knowledge checks are trained only.

The ability actually first appeared in the Fiend Folio (specifically, the Xerfilstyx), and we've used it a number of times since.

Still, adding the 1/2 HD bonus on top of the 10 ranks would be acceptable to me for the various superior aboleths.

 

[freyar]

So, go standard for greater aboleth, then 10+1/2 HD for the better ones?

 

[Shade]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Updated.

Skills: 7 at 15 ranks
Standard aboleth has Concentration, Knowledge (any one), Listen, Spot (Psionic variant has same)

Feats: 5
Standard aboleth has Alertness, Combat Casting, Iron Will (Psionic variant has Alertness, Combat Manifestation, Iron Will)

They possess enslavement powers superior to those of common aboleth, having a range of 60’ and usable a number of times per day equal to the aboleth’s hit dice. The save vs. spells is at -4, and only a limited wish, wish, or alter reality spell can counter it (though enslavement ends if the aboleth is killed as well). If more than two miles ever separate slave and master, the slave is entitled to another saving throw (still at -4).

This would seem to suggest Ability Focus (enslave) and/or a racial bonus to the save DC.

 

[freyar]

Let's go for a racial bonus to the DC; it's a large penalty, and we use Ability Focus a lot just for our own tastes/customization.

We gave the saltwater also 2 Knowledges, Spellcraft, and Swim. Want to swap Swim for another Knowledge, perhaps?

Thinking about feats...

 

[demiurge1138]

Add... Combat Reflexes and Combat Expertise?