D&D 4E What should the next new official campaign setting for 4e be like?

I think that people are on the right track with suggestions of a setting that is not based on fantasy medieval Europe. However, thus far all of the settings like that have been developed by American developers for primarily American audiences. That's been the case for all of D&D's almost 40 years of existence.

There's a small audience for roleplaying games in the United States and there probably always will be. However, how much more of a thriving franchise would it be if it were trying to find the small potential audience for roleplaying out of 6.9 billion people rather than the small potential audience for roleplaying out of 300 million? This is not to say that there aren't people in other countries playing D&D, obviously there are and many of them might be here online. But it's never been developed specifically for those audiences.

This could result in new concepts and innovations in the game that would pay off here at home, as well. I think we can look to the popularity of Japanese culture in the US as a sign that there's a market for more globally oriented products here at home.

I would say, instead of developing a new Oriental Adventures for Western audiences, why not bring in someone from Asia to develop something for Asian audiences, that can either eventually or immediately be sold to American audiences as well? They keep trying to mine their audience from the same seam, and the ore is running out.

Maybe we as gamers, in order to find our games' future, have to decide that it shouldn't be for us. If they can find success among other populations, even as a temporary but profitable fad in a fickle culture like Japan, then that means there is more development for other stuff. It also gives us fresh ideas and content to use.

I would say that instead of trying to base the next setting on the mythos of another culture, have it developed and at least partially marketed for another culture. It might not be exactly the same game, but isn't that the point of continuing to develop the game? If we wanted it to say the same, we could keep playing what we already have.
 

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Of the existing settings, my pick would be Spelljmmer. Ravenloft would be a close second.

However, I do think there's limited mileage in just reissuing all the old material - surely by this point most people who are really interested already have conversions in place?

That being the case, I feel they should do an entirely new setting - or even just lay off on the settings for the time being. (Although, with Neverwinter being part of FR, that's kinda what they're already doing...)

With the Despair Deck in the Shadowfell boxed set, that's actually starting to sound a lot like Ravenloft anyways.
 


Personally, if they would bring Greyhawk to 4e, I would like to see it have a grittier tone opposed to FR's tone. It could be something along the lines of Middle Earth, that way it wouldn't be too similar to FR.
 


Personally, if they would bring Greyhawk to 4e, I would like to see it have a grittier tone opposed to FR's tone. It could be something along the lines of Middle Earth, that way it wouldn't be too similar to FR.
I am pretty sure that the original intent of the Greyhawk creators was that it was a grittier, low-ish fantasy setting. The fact that it was for a long time the "default," forced it, by necessity, to take other forms and to "make room" for the proverbial kitchen sink.

Interestingly, I think that's something that Forgotten Realms was just better at in the first place, since it seemed to be the intent from the get-go to be an "everything" setting.

A friend of mine ran a brief Greyhawk game circa 2003, and since he was an Old Guard Greyhawk DM from the 1e days, it felt like Original Greyhawk. It was fantastically gritty. I should bug him sometime to resurrect that game so we can experience it under 4e and finish that story arc (finally!).
 

I would be interested in a water dominated setting. Maybe more of a Mediteranian Sea setup with the varied countries around it. There could be pirates and pyramids, temples and high mountains. Multiple climates and cultures, but I can see how most of them would speak the common language and similar goods and services would be available throughoput the realm.
 

I would be interested in a water dominated setting. Maybe more of a Mediteranian Sea setup with the varied countries around it. There could be pirates and pyramids, temples and high mountains. Multiple climates and cultures, but I can see how most of them would speak the common language and similar goods and services would be available throughoput the realm.

That's kind of what I had in mind when I suggested a seafaring setting. I can't decide if I like adapting the default cultures to the geography or re-fluffing them to evoke different cultures from Antiquity.
 

Hmm, I for one am going to be first in line to get the New Neverwinter campaign. I like the Forgotten Realms, and stuff for it appeals to me FAR more than anything of the smaller and less popular campaign settings.

Along with the hype a new Computer game will bring, Forgotten Realms is hugely popular, perhaps that's one reason they are releasing Neverwinter.
 

I am pretty sure that the original intent of the Greyhawk creators was that it was a grittier, low-ish fantasy setting. The fact that it was for a long time the "default," forced it, by necessity, to take other forms and to "make room" for the proverbial kitchen sink.

Interestingly, I think that's something that Forgotten Realms was just better at in the first place, since it seemed to be the intent from the get-go to be an "everything" setting.

A friend of mine ran a brief Greyhawk game circa 2003, and since he was an Old Guard Greyhawk DM from the 1e days, it felt like Original Greyhawk. It was fantastically gritty. I should bug him sometime to resurrect that game so we can experience it under 4e and finish that story arc (finally!).

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'd like Greyhawk and FR to be a dissimilar as possible for more variety. That said, how can Dragonlance be unique from Greyhawk and FR as a 4e setting?
 

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