What do you think the 2012 setting is gonna be?

[Scribble]

I think I might be petty, but I'd be annoyed by this, largely because time and design effort would have been taken away from 4e material to support the older editions. I want the advancement of the current edition to be the designers' sole concern at this point, not any sort of apologist outreach. I want them to show me what they can do with the current systems, how they can grow and expand and push those, what they can add to them, show me a setting that's new and uniquely 4e (what I think many of us are clamoring for). Attempting to be universal feels the opposite of that, in my opinion, anyway.

I don't know if I agree with "apologist."

Also I think this falls into the same category that I see when people say the board games detract from the RPG... Which is just because one thing is made doesn't mean the resources would have been earmarked to the RPG had it not been.

In any case you're welcome to your opinion of course, and I doubt it will happen anyway, but I wonder- if there is money in it (and their are obviously still people playing all editions) why shouldn't they?

D&D obviously has a long tradition/history of only supporting the current edition, but really is there a need to do that? Especially since people seem to find differences in each edition.

There's room on people's shelves for multiple systems- why not multiple editions of the same system as well? I know I never got rid of any of my older edition material; It still works and it's still fun.

Maybe if they let everyone have support for their toys, we might see less arguing about which rule is the right rule, and more talking about abandoned temples to ancient frog gods.

That's probably just a pipe dream though.

 

[catastrophic]

I just want more stuff with Beholders.
... If there is one thing that says D&D it is Beholders!

Invasion of the Beholders - not really a Campaign Setting and more of a Campaign but still Beholders Rule!

What if the campaign setting was a beholder. . .

I'll just toss this out there. We know there's dragons, as they've said that much. Maybe the twist is no dungeons. I'm not even sure what that would mean. And my prognostication machine is worse than anyone else I know.

Were you one of the people predicting 5e at gen con? Otherwise, congrats, your prognosticator is not as poorly calibrated as you had feared.

Wouldn't it be interesting if it was setup to use every edition of D&D?

No, that would be about as uninteresting as a campaign setting could get. Especially since making a setting systemless is such a superior option.

 

[SpydersWebbing]

It's something completely new, so we can rule out cards. They've done a steampunk-ish setting (Eberron), "classical" fantasy (Faerun), "apocalyptic" fantasy (Dark Sun)... maybe something Final Fantasy-ish, where magic and tech get fused? There could be some interesting mechanics developed for a system like that.

I have no idea, but if they're talking about something fundamental then maybe they're adding a d30

 

[Scribble]

Maybe the question we need to ask is:

What hasn't been done in D&D before, and what have we been asking for...

 

[catastrophic]

Also I think this falls into the same category that I see when people say the board games detract from the RPG... Which is just because one thing is made doesn't mean the resources would have been earmarked to the RPG had it not been.

Actually, board games don't detract from the rpg, since they're a seperate division. OTOH, pointless system redundance certainly would take time away from the edition that their actual buyers are actually buying.

but I wonder- if there is money in it (and their are obviously still people playing all editions) why shouldn't they?

Because there isn't any money in it, and it would cost them money. Somebody playing an edition, or rather, claiming on the internet that lots of people do, is not the same as people buying a book.

Maybe if they let everyone have support for their toys, we might see less arguing about which rule is the right rule, and more talking about abandoned temples to ancient frog gods.

Appeasing the 4e-bashers is only going to make things worse.

 

[Scribble]

Actually, board games don't detract from the rpg, since they're a seperate division. OTOH, pointless system redundance certainly would take time away from the edition that their actual buyers are actually buying.

This is still not true- just because they're both RPGs and they both have money spent on them doesn't mean that if they didn't the money would go to whatever product you prefer. Especially if it's a new initiative.

Because there isn't any money in it, and it would cost them money. Somebody playing an edition, or rather, claiming on the internet that lots of people do, is not the same as people buying a book.

You have these numbers? I don't but your claim seems to indicate you have hard numbers.

I know some people who are currently playing basic D&D. I know some currently playing 4e, and some currently playing 3.5

But I don't have any hard numbers- hence my IF there is money in it why not.

Appeasing the 4e-bashers is only going to make things worse.

Maybe- it's never been done before though, so who knows.

 

[Kobold Boots]

The new setting will be based on the world presented in the 80s cartoon series of Dungeons & Dragons.

The twists will be that every player has an artifact and the DM will be an active playing character.

I know it's unlikely but hell, no more unlikely than WoTC sticking to its own release schedule. I call dibs on Venger.

 

[Pour]

@Scribble and @catastrophic

The last thing I wanted to do was derail this thread and I apologize for that. I'm working on a response to Scribble that I'll make a new thread. Just give me a few minutes.

EDIT: Sorry guys. I had this long, elaborate lead into the thread quoting all three of us, but I think I may have quoted once too many and the post sort of glitched. I've since put up a very general lead in. Hopefully we can continue the discussion there.

 

[wlmartin]

I have got it!

I really have and anyone who disagrees with me can challenge me but the DC for this statement is DC/∞ !!

OK so the key thing they said was

It has a twist

I think that basically every town/city in the world is given a colour, red, green, blue, yellow... Each town paints their houses in this colour, they die their bodies and hair in this colour and change the name of their Taverns from the "Rampaging Goat" to the "Red Goat"

Every day there is a big shaking of the ground and a massive (several miles across) foot or hand will descend from the heavens and crush one of the towns.

As more days pass, more hands and feet will descend until eventually an entire area, the size of a country is visited upon the falling body of a being so massive (come on, his feet and hands were miles across!!) that he creates a crater 100s of miles across killing everything under it.

Then... Um... wait a sec.

Ahhhhhhh

It said

It has a twist

I thought it said

twister

Ah well, it could still happen!

 

[Pentius]

I'll just toss this out there. We know there's dragons, as they've said that much. Maybe the twist is no dungeons. I'm not even sure what that would mean. And my prognostication machine is worse than anyone else I know.

The world is a giant of sphere of flawless Adamantium...no tunnelling or caving is possible. Thus, no dungeons.