Pathfinder 1E Could Pathfinder take D&D's place...

[Androrc]

The point I was trying to make, perhaps less then eloquently, was to resist the urge to be a fanboy and personify corporations. Follow the people not the companies themselves. People like to demonize/deify entities that are created for 1 purpose, to make money. If you have people who enjoy the hobby at the helm, and are free to make the choices themselves, they can make financially sound choices that also are better for the hobby. Without the money part though these companies couldn't exist.

Companies need to make a profit to survive, but they don't necessarily exist solely to make money.

 

[ahayford]

Touche.

 

[Ettin]

Companies need to make a profit to survive, but they don't necessarily exist solely to make money.

Things I like = By the fans, for the fans!
Things I don't like = Evil faceless corporation only in it for the money!

 

[Arevashti]

Things I like = By the fans, for the fans!
Things I don't like = Evil faceless corporation only in it for the money!

I think you're confused. They're paired off correctly, but each one should be the other way around.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

I think you're confused. They're paired off correctly, but each one should be the other way around.

Evil faceless fans who are only in it for the money?

Run!

The Auld Grump

 

[Dannager]

Pathfinder Organized Play flourishes while LFR looses all WotC development and support.

To clarify, WotC organized play is doing just fine; D&D Encounters is quite popular and is going into its sixth season, and a new organized play program called Lair Assault is starting this coming month. It's a bit disingenuous to make it appear as though WotC is abandoning organized play. They moved LFR out of house, but they've replaced it with other programs. Just in case anyone was confused by the way Azmyth worded it.

 

[Ettin]

I think you're confused. They're paired off correctly, but each one should be the other way around.

Things I don't like = Evil faceless corporation only in it for the money!
Things I like = By the fans, for the fans!

 

[Arevashti]

Things I don't like = Evil faceless corporation only in it for the money!
Things I like = By the fans, for the fans!

I'm afraid you've still got them inverted. Companies' tactics are not shaped by our opinions; quite the opposite, in fact.

We can't bend reality by sheer force of will quite yet, after all. And even if we could, I somehow doubt that making a company one dislikes start abandoning its scruples would be a very effective way to ruin it.

 

[Ettin]

I'm afraid you've still got them inverted.

Things I like = Evil faceless corporation only in it for the money!
Things I don't like = By the fans, for the fans!

That is even weirder than the attitude (a general joke, mind, not Androrc's post) http://www.enworld.org/forum/members/androrc.htmlI was making a joke about.

 

[Arevashti]

Things I like = Evil faceless corporation only in it for the money!
Things I don't like = By the fans, for the fans!

You've said that three times now, but that's still not how it works.

Lack of ethics and/or principles are one of the (many) reasons why people may not like a company. But companies don't become less ethical or principled because people dislike them. Where would you get that idea?

That is even weirder than the attitude (a general joke, mind, not Androrc's post) I was making a joke about.

Companies becoming "evil and faceless," as you put it, because they're disliked? That's very weird, and—again—not how it works.

(Let me explain, then. You seemed to be brushing off any criticism of WotC as pure bias. While I'm certainly not going to call WotC an "evil faceless corporation," they do come off as...well, somewhat more impersonal than Paizo. Whether or not this actually has anything to do with WotC's being a subdivision of Hasbro—a larger corporation that's not focused primarily on tabletop RPGs—is anyone's guess. But even so.

See?)