The Romance of the River Kingdoms

[Dr Simon]

Let's see:

Grace/Health - you're right, I changed it to my usual hit points houserule (all one set of hp, but you get your Con score worth of hp at first level as well).

Spell Weaving - the easiest way would be to ignore 0 level slots (since they aren't treated the same as other spell levels in PF anyway). I don't think it's come up a lot anyway, but now people are getting more spell slots, it might.

Ability scores - last time you levelled up we converted to PF at the same time, but since it was only existing characters you kept ability scores the same. Now, with new characters coming in, in might be a good idea to allow existing characters to calculate ability scores as new to keep everything balanced. I suggest Salsham'ai - +2 Dex and Wis, -2 Str; Nai-nek-chai +2 Wis, -2 Int and +2 to either Str, Dex or Con depending on animal type; Tlaxu +2 to any chosen; Ura -4 Str, +2 Dex, +2 Cha (they get short-changed but the Tiny size has its own benefits; Edraldi +2 Con and -2 Cha, with Stone +2 Str, Earth +2 Dex, Metal +2 Int and Gem +2 Wis.

 

[Walking Dad]

How many points for ability point buy?

Ignoring cantrips/orisons for spellweaving sounds like the way to go.

(baboon would get con or dex bonus?)

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

Should we use the wealth by level tables for starting cash?

Also, the recruiting thread says 4th level, but I saw that the party's recently leveled to 5th - should we be building 5th level as well?

 

[Shayuri]

Presumably so...but don't use the 5th level wealth table.

This is definitely a low-loot game. We've got about 400gp in cash each right now, if I do my math right, and all the magic items we've found are consumable or very specific-use.

That said, the challenge has been fine, as we haven't been set against foes that require magic weapons or anything like that either. Balance is good, just low-magic/loot.

 

[Dr Simon]

25 point buy.

Baboon; Of all the ability scores, they start with the highest Dex, so I'd say go with that.

Mowgli, yes, go with 5th level. It was only reading back I realised that it was a year real-time when the characters last levelled.

Character wealth is currently a lot less than standard - I'd go with 3000gp worth.

 

[Shayuri]

That's still like twice what we have, I think...roughly.

 

[ahayford]

I was thinking of Rolling a Ti-kop Warrior or possibly barbarian.... What do you think? Backstory along the lines of the Vashti once settling a dispute between his tribe and a village of humans. Despite this service, no other Ti-kops of Glip's tribe were willing to brave the surface to answer the summons to her funeral. After some time, Glip was finally able to convince his elders there was value in paying their respect to one of the few humans that actually acted in their behalf. Glip now seeks out the heir of the Vashti, hoping to atone for his people's lack of gratitude.

 

[Maidhc O Casain]

Ura -4 Str, +2 Dex, +2 Cha (they get short-changed but the Tiny size has its own benefits);

Yes it does, but so does being able to shape change (flying and other new movement speeds - though flying is the most beneficial, natural attacks, skill modifiers . . .)

And being Tiny size has some big drawbacks, as well. Tiny size can't threaten any squares without using a reach weapon, for example. And they have to incur attacks of opportunity to melee without using a reach weapon. Also reduced carrying capacity on top of the massive hit to STR, penalty to Combat Maneuvers, and the inability to perform Combat Maneuvers on foes the size most of ours will likely be (Medium or larger).

May I request either cutting the STR penalty to -2 or bumping the DEX to +4 to make the net a +2?

I'm playing one regardless, 'cause I think they're cool! (And I'm already working on a pic . . . WIP is below).

Character wealth is currently a lot less than standard - I'd go with 3000gp worth.

That's still like twice what we have, I think...roughly.

Wow - 5th level and no one has even a +1 weapon? That's different, but I think I might like it . . .

Just let me know for sure what to start with and I'll make it work.

I was thinking of Rolling a Ti-kop Warrior or possibly barbarian.... What do you think? Backstory along the lines of the Vashti once settling a dispute between his tribe and a village of humans. Despite this service, no other Ti-kops of Glip's tribe were willing to brave the surface to answer the summons to her funeral. After some time, Glip was finally able to convince his elders there was value in paying their respect to one of the few humans that actually acted in their behalf. Glip now seeks out the heir of the Vashti, hoping to atone for his people's lack of gratitude.

That sounds great, ahayford!

 

[Dr Simon]

[MENTION=6680745]ahayford[/MENTION] - nice concept. I think the group currently lacks any kind of heavy melee, so either would be a good addition to the group.

[MENTION=29558]Mowgli[/MENTION] - cool picture! Well, how about -2 Str instead of -4, since they're supposed to be a warrior race and the Tiny-size weapons give quite a hit to damage already. I'm in two minds about the threatened area. Sprytes in Arcana Evolved threaten as a Small/Medium creature, so I do wonder if the limited (RAW) threat area is one of the rules that's more of an annoyance than anything else. I don't think it'd be a game-breaker to give Ura characters reach into adjacent spaces. Thoughts?

 

[ahayford]

I didn't see the Ti-Kop's stat bonuses posted. Did you have suggestions for those?