Special Conversion Thread: Lycanthropes and their ilk

[Cleon]

I'm wondering whether we shouldn't add a "gore option" to the Hybrid form, like we did for the Wereram conversion?

Thus:

Attack: Claw +12 melee (1d6+9) or gore +12 melee (1d8+9) or falchion +12 (2d6+13)
Full Attack: 2 claws +12 melee (1d6+9) and gore +7 melee (1d8+4) and bite +7 melee (1d8+4); or falchion +12 (2d6+13) and gore +7 melee (1d8+4) and bite +7 melee (1d8+4)

 

[freyar]

Description, flavor, and tactics look good.

I'd be willing to add a gore to the hybrid form, and frankly I think claws are silly for a hybrid werebison. I'd be willing to drop those to compensate.

 

[Cleon]

Description, flavor, and tactics look good.

I'd be willing to add a gore to the hybrid form, and frankly I think claws are silly for a hybrid werebison. I'd be willing to drop those to compensate.

The problem is the blinkin' Lycanthrope Template requires claw attacks, even if the base animal doesn't have them - or even legs for that matter, as in a Weresnake.

Given the choice, I'd give it slams instead of claws, since I'd think a Werebison would have hoof-fists.

 

[freyar]

Yes, I agree, the template isn't broadly designed enough. We could break the mold and declare this not to be a standard lycanthrope if we feel strongly enough about it. I'm pretty sure that's been done before.

 

[Cleon]

Yes, I agree, the template isn't broadly designed enough. We could break the mold and declare this not to be a standard lycanthrope if we feel strongly enough about it. I'm pretty sure that's been done before.

I did it with the Weresheep and nobody complained. (or perhaps they just didn't notice...)

So, shall we go for claws, bite and gore?

 

[freyar]

I think I noticed but didn't want to complain since it made sense.

Why not slams and gore instead of claws and bite? I'd do that.

Just noticed that the SRD lycanthropes don't follow the 2 claws plus bite form uniformly anyway. Why didn't they write the template rules better?

 

[Cleon]

I think I noticed but didn't want to complain since it made sense.

Why not slams and gore instead of claws and bite? I'd do that.

Just noticed that the SRD lycanthropes don't follow the 2 claws plus bite form uniformly anyway. Why didn't they write the template rules better?

I'm fine swapping the claws to slams and adding a gore, but if we don't also add a bite the Curse of the Lycanthrope special attack is useless (unless we make that work with a slam rather than a gore).

 

[freyar]

Hmmph. Make it work with the gore attack?

 

[Cleon]

Hmmph. Make it work with the gore attack?

Dang it, I meant to say "unless we make that work with a gore rather than a bite" - Curse of the Lycanthrope isn't normally inflicted by a slam!

So, you fancy a slam/slam/gore with the gore inflicting lycanthropy?

I was finding that tempting, but it is quite a ways from the template.

 

[freyar]

The SRD wereboar does claw/claw/gore with cursed gore in hybrid form.
The wererat doesn't seem to get claws at all in hybrid form.

In any case, I think there's precedent. It's just that the template isn't written very well.