D&D 5E 5e Hobgoblin stat block

[Thaumaturge]

Edit:Updated with a complete image from [MENTION=6777168]Wolfskin[/MENTION].

Thaumaturge.

 

[Thaumaturge]

From the playtest that is:

+4 AC
+5' Speed
+2 Str
+2 Dex
-4 Chr

A different special ability. "Martial advantage" instead of "Disciplined".

And 100 xp instead of 20.

Thaumaturge.

 

[Boarstorm]

Interesting. More of a step back toward traditional hobgoblins, IMO.

I think I liked the playtest racial better, though. This one seems swingy.

Although I notice we don't have the full stat block this time. No weapons/attacks listed.

 

[Johnny Champion]

I guess the Action information was not available? Such as weapon To Hit and Damage?

 

[Thaumaturge]

I guess the Action information was not available? Such as weapon To Hit and Damage?

Sadly, no. That picture is all that was posted.

Thaumaturge.

 

[Wolfskin]

Wow, 7 extra damage for a Challenge 1/2 monster sure looks brutal. Hobgoblins in large groups will dangerous even for higher level characters.

EDIT: if Hobgoblins are CR 1/2 monsters, I guess it's safe to assume regular Goblins are CR 1/4 monsters, right?

 

[Thaumaturge]

Wow, 7 extra damage for a Challenge 1/2 monster sure looks brutal. Hobgoblins in large groups will dangerous even for higher level characters.

Yeah, for low level characters there is a pretty big (more than twice) difference between facing one hobgoblin and facing two.

Thaumaturge.

 

[Quickleaf]

Well, it's clear XP have seen some heavy revision since the playtest!

Has anyone grokked the "Challenge" descriptor yet? Is "Challenge 1/2" meant to imply a single hobgoblin is worth "half" a 1st level PC in a fight, so I should assume a 1st level PC should have a fair fight against 2 hobgoblins?

Because "Martial Advantage" makes it seem unlikely that a 1st level PC would survive an encounter with 2 hobgoblins in a straight-up fight.

 

[GX.Sigma]

Has anyone grokked the "Challenge" descriptor yet? Is "Challenge 1/2" meant to imply a single hobgoblin is worth "half" a 1st level PC in a fight, so I should assume a 1st level PC should have a fair fight against 2 hobgoblins?

Challenge rating is based on a party of that level. So, a 1st level PC party should have a fair fight against 2 hobgoblins.

Well, "fair" probably isn't right. "Dangerous, but not lethal" is more like it.

 

[Klaus]

Well, it's clear XP have seen some heavy revision since the playtest!

Has anyone grokked the "Challenge" descriptor yet? Is "Challenge 1/2" meant to imply a single hobgoblin is worth "half" a 1st level PC in a fight, so I should assume a 1st level PC should have a fair fight against 2 hobgoblins?

Because "Martial Advantage" makes it seem unlikely that a 1st level PC would survive an encounter with 2 hobgoblins in a straight-up fight.

From a D&D Q&A from a while back:

The CR of a monster is based on the level at which a party of four player characters could fight that monster and have a moderate-to-challenging fight.

So a party of four 1st-level PCs would have a moderate-to-challenging fight with two hobgoblins.