D&D 5E Remathilis's 5e Starter Set Report

[Kobold Stew]

High Elf would work, for the free cantrip.

True enough! And that's cool, because the build then makes you invest in INT rather than (or along with) WIS. (Interestingly, elf is also the way to build an archer cleric...)

Thanks.

 

[TarionzCousin]

A full campaign later will be a better stress test, but even with what it was it showed them the system has potential.

In the end, that's all I needed out of it.

That is good to hear.

I greatly prefer to run campaigns, not one-shots, so this is reassuring.

 

[WitchyD]

The laser cleric build is one that was consistently absent through the play test, and it's not in 5b either -- possibly an attack Cleric cantrip will come, but not only is the dex-save attack spell we have avoidable, it lacks player agency. Which is a shame.

We did see an Arcanist cleric, who picked cantrips and domain spells from the Wizard's spell list, received no additional armor or weapon proficiencies (but did automatically receive the Mage Armor cantrip), and could Channel Magical Might, which could be used when the Cleric casted a spell and gave the target disadvantage on the spell's saving throw. Seems like a laser cleric to me. I'm hoping this sub-class makes it to the PHB.

 

[Kobold Stew]

That's true! That was in June, right? I think I skimmed that (didn't think it was giving me what was looking for -- clearly a mistake!)

 

[jadrax]

We did see an Arcanist cleric, who picked cantrips and domain spells from the Wizard's spell list, received no additional armor or weapon proficiencies (but did automatically receive the Mage Armor cantrip), and could Channel Magical Might, which could be used when the Cleric casted a spell and gave the target disadvantage on the spell's saving throw. Seems like a laser cleric to me. I'm hoping this sub-class makes it to the PHB.

Magic does not appear to be a Cleric Domain that made it to the PHB, but Knowledge might be along those lines.

 

[WitchyD]

Magic does not appear to be a Cleric Domain that made it to the PHB, but Knowledge might be along those lines.

I hope so. I know I had a lot of fun with a Cleric who was swinging from his own Rope Trick, slinging spells at things, and casting Command ("Drop!") on any enemies foolish enough to climb up after me. Perhaps "R" might enjoy this too.

 

[Remathilis]

Side question since we're talking about cantrips.

If a high elf is of another class (say, rogue) and takes a combat cantrip (firebolt), does he get proficiency with it, or is he strictly off his Int score?

 

[WitchyD]

I think so. Page 81 states "Your attack bonus with a spell attack equals your spellcasting ability modifier + your proficiency bonus." Page 7 also states that you add your proficiency bonus to "Attack rolls with spells you cast." It mentions nothing of needing to be proficient with the spell.

 

[JC99]

Side question since we're talking about cantrips.

If a high elf is of another class (say, rogue) and takes a combat cantrip (firebolt), does he get proficiency with it, or is he strictly off his Int score?

Yes, you should add your proficiency bonus to the attack.

Your proficiency bonus applies to many of the
numbers you’ll be recording on your character sheet:
• Attack rolls using weapons you’re proficient with
• Attack rolls with spells you cast
• Ability checks using skills you’re proficient in
• Ability checks using tools you’re proficient with
• Saving throws you’re proficient in
• Saving throw DCs for spells you cast (explained in
each spellcasting class)

EDIT: Got beat to it

 

[Rod Staffwand]

Side question since we're talking about cantrips.

If a high elf is of another class (say, rogue) and takes a combat cantrip (firebolt), does he get proficiency with it, or is he strictly off his Int score?

You always add your proficiency bonus to attack rolls with spells you cast, according to page 7 of 5B. There are no exceptions given, so I assume it's always the case. So even if a fighter was empowered to cast firebolt from his magic belt buckle, he'd add his proficiency bonus as well.

EDIT: Too slow + Good recap, OP.