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D&D 5E State of D&D

Laznabog

First Post
As someone who loathes bloat, I prefer the slow release schedule. I think the core books were done well enough that there's no need for splat books any time soon. Adventures and campaign guides, in my opinion. I don't want to see 5E go down the path of Pathfinder (no pun intended) of having a million different books of crunch.

I honestly don't see how people can run out of entertainment so fast with what's available. Home brew is the way to go if you want to do something original. If you don't have time for that, then you probably don't even have time to run a proper adventure path without it feeling very boring and dry. Either way, if you really have that little time, then HOW are you already bored with the game and have ran out of things to do in it given so little time to play it?

People seemed to be so spoiled and want instant gratification and give off the impression that they're actually offended by a "lack of" things given to them by WOTC.

If bloat and endless seas of crunch and numbers and calculus is what you want, there's a game for you already. It's called Pathfinder. You can probably buy a few books, per month, for a few years, to keep you satisfied and your wallet pillaged.

Mechanically I really enjoyed Pathfinder a lot. I just refuse to support them because I find some of their workers to be detestable. I don't think anyone would argue that there are a lot of things Pathfinder must have done right, one of which in my opinion, is to provide lots of options.

I bet most companies only wish they had people longing to buy more of their product. I doubt many of them would use the words "Our customers are offended we don't give them more."
 
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Grognak

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I'm returning to tabletop gaming after decades away, mostly attracted to the siren song of 5e, but honestly after spending time looking at everything out there Pathfinder - despite all the warnings about bloat/math/complexity - feels like the more appealing franchise because of the sheer amount of support.

I know that you can easily run an RPG with its respective core book and a module or two and make it last for years but a steady sense of support is what makes a game feel "alive" to me. I am sure that this is partially consumeristic programming but it still makes me more comfortable to see the level of support a game like Pathfinder gets.
 
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darjr

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Quickly, welcome back to the hobby, Pathfinder is a great game and Paizo is a great company. Note that their release schedule, by plan, is a slow one. Or was before 5e. And for many of the same reasons.
 


Shasarak

Banned
Banned
Well, to put it a different way- if you go to a restaurant, and you hate their food, why would you demand larger portions?

As it would appear that you do not like what WoTC is doing with D&D, it would seem that the one complaint you shouldn't be raising is that there isn't enough of it! I may not be well versed in my consumer math, but I am relatively certain that crud + more crud does not equal quality?

I dont like all this Chicken, any chance of doing Steak instead?
 




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