D&D 5E D&D Promises to Make the Game More Queer

[WayneLigon]

My opinions is still being misrepresented and my posts still quoted and I can't even write a comment to clarify them without braking the rules.

*sigh*

I guess that it would be because you continue to insist that some mythical agenda is at work here to promote such things instead of 'American culture has begun to change on this matter and will likely continue to change; now that level of change has once again reached the point that people are becoming more vocal about that change'. The attitudes of the past that prevented open, vocal discussion of such things is in the long slow process of dying out.

Another thought springs to mind - you've never mentioned how long you've been out of the US. You possibly could be unaware of just how politically charged the word 'agenda' has become. It is typically used by opponents to [whatever thing] to insinuate that some sinister political cabal behind [whatever] to socially engineer [whatever] in order to [implement the New World Order/destroy the moral fabric/whatever other loony-tune conspiracy theory you want to use].

 

[Xeviat]

There is a new D&D survey up if you're super dissatisfied with Jeremy Crawford: http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/news/dd-survey

 

[Shemeska]

I'm genuinely glad to see WotC finally catching up with the rest of the industry here. They're a big company and having them finally on board with this approach is a damn good thing to see. A more accepting, diverse, and inclusive game world will appeal to and attract an ever more diverse player base which is good for the game and good for the industry. This makes me happy and even happier to see players comment about finally seeing a reflection of themselves in the game.

Still, it's odd to see WotC getting such acclaim for this now when honestly they're playing catch up. The article makes it sound like they're trailblazing here. Pathfinder has been including LGBTQ characters since day 1.

 

[Lanefan]

I really hate that the existence of gold pieces advances the capitalist agenda. Keep ... gold pieces out of D&D!

Believe me, with some of the in-character greed my players role-play (no matter what particular character they may be playing at the time) there's times when I've been sorely tempted...

 

[Hriston]

My opinions is still being misrepresented and my posts still quoted and I can't even write a comment to clarify them without braking the rules.

*sigh*

I think you've done enough clarifying, if that's what you call repeating yourself over and over. I think I understand your opinion well enough. Now let me tell you why I think you're wrong. Jeremy Crawford, just like any storyteller, has decisions to make about what kinds of characters he represents in his fiction. He can choose to include gay characters, or he could choose to not include gay characters. He's well aware of the consequences that result from either course of action. It's a conscious decision either way. He's chosen to release books that are inclusive of gay characters because to do the opposite, to create stories that are devoid of gay characters as if gay people didn't exist, would be to continue to participate in the long established tradition of fiction that seeks to exclude gay people from the stories we tell each other, sending the message that gay people are unfit to be themselves and participate in the dominant culture. I can only imagine that following such a course of action as a writer and publisher would be unacceptable to him. The thing you imagine, that he could release material without regard for the consequences of including or excluding gay characters, is a fantasy, and an undesirable one at that. Such an artist, unaware of what it is he is creating, is no professional.

 

[FrogReaver]

I think you've done enough clarifying, if that's what you call repeating yourself over and over. I think I understand your opinion well enough. Now let me tell you why I think you're wrong. Jeremy Crawford, just like any storyteller, has decisions to make about what kinds of characters he represents in his fiction. He can choose to include gay characters, or he could choose to not include gay characters. He's well aware of the consequences that result from either course of action. It's a conscious decision either way. He's chosen to release books that are inclusive of gay characters because to do the opposite, to create stories that are devoid of gay characters as if gay people didn't exist, would be to continue to participate in the long established tradition of fiction that seeks to exclude gay people from the stories we tell each other, sending the message that gay people are unfit to be themselves and participate in the dominant culture. I can only imagine that following such a course of action as a writer and publisher would be unacceptable to him. The thing you imagine, that he could release material without regard for the consequences of including or excluding gay characters, is a fantasy, and an undesirable one at that. Such an artist, unaware of what it is he is creating, is no professional.

Go on giving yourself a pat on the back. It's easy to do when every different opinion on the matter has been stifled by rules.

 

[FrogReaver]

[MENTION=57112]Gradine[/MENTION]

Tolerance must be reciprocal.

There is no paradox with regard to tolerance.

A person who makes the effort to be tolerant of others, deserves to enjoy tolerance from others.

A person who is intolerant of others, deserves to suffer intolerance from others.

It is simple. And logical.

If you view me as intolerant and then are intolerant of me I will start viewing you as intolerant and will be intolerant of you. Regardless of who started it, what you are advocating will become a vicious circle of intolerance where your intolerance of me fuels my intolerance of you and my intolerance of you fuels your intolerance of me. So what you propose is a path to total intolerance on both sides.

 

[Hriston]

Go on giving yourself a pat on the back.

How do you think I'm doing that by expressing my opinion? What do you think I'm congratulating myself for?

 

[Miladoon]

Whoops. I tried to only quote the relevant text, but it looks like I need to learn how to use the backspace button better. Sorry.

No Worries. To me, motherhood is one of her greatest qualities. Slaying the Witch King is a moment. Raising children is a lifetime.

Strahd had a male harem member....a vampire named Esher.

Cheers!

"raises a glass of spritz"

I should of been more specific. I don't own CoS. I guess gay vampires are the thing. If I felt like arguing I would probably go on about vampires being asexual. Its just a guess. I don't know any vampires. I suppose this harem was all male, making Strahd a full blown homosexual?

Nevermind.

Bottoms up, Crawford.

 

[Yaarel]

Kind of like finding out Crawford is gay. Huh. That's interesting.

Thats kinda how I felt when discovering the directors of one of my favorite movies, The Matrix, are two transsexual twins.

Really? Huh.