D&D General Just sweeping dirty dishes under the rug: D&D, Sexism, and the '70s

[Bedrockgames]

My statement stands.

Well I am not trolling

 

[Mannahnin]

I am saying someone having a particular identity or background doesn’t mean every reaction or feeling they have is proportional

Of course it doesn't. But if one person has experience with a thing, and the other does not, when the second person contradicts the first on that subject, all else being equal, they have less credibility. Whether it's open heart surgery, Latin grammar, or prejudice.

 

[Bedrockgames]

Of course it doesn't. But if one person has experience with a thing, and the other does not, when the second person contradicts the first on that subject, all else being equal, they have less credibility. Whether it's open heart surgery, Latin grammar, or prejudice.

Sure. A person having experience is a factor. And I said a person being impacted something also matters. But it doesn’t mean everyone else stops using their judgment. It doesn’t mean others should just be silent and listen. People can still be wrong. People can still lie or exaggerate. We have an obligation to still remain to discerning, and other points of view still matters. None of what I am saying strikes me as outrageous

 

[Steampunkette]

"I've never been to the moon. Never did the math required to get there. Never built a rocket. Never worked for NASA. Never talked to Ground Control. But I -have- read a lot of material online about how the moon landing was fake because of camera angles. Therefore my opinion on whether or not Buzz Aldrin ever went to the moon is at least equal to his 'claimed' experience of having been there."

Any time someone claims that their ignorance is equal to someone else's experience it makes my eyeball twitch.

Not the eyelid. The eyeball. It's just that irritating.

 

[MGibster]

I think it relates to its Britishness. The US has a tendency to be more protective towards what is considered suitable for children. The complete ban on lethality in the D&D cartoon is an example. Compare to Thunderbirds. Characters usually don’t die, but people are shooting guns at each other. See Lady Penelope blow up the Hood’s car with a rocket in the first episode.

I don’t want to throw stones, but you guys called it Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles and made Michelangelo get rid of his nunchucks because it wasn’t appropriate for children. Culturally speaking, Americans are fine with children watching violence.

 

[Mannahnin]

I don’t want to throw stones, but you guys called it Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles and made Michelangelo get rid of his nunchucks because it wasn’t appropriate for children. Culturally speaking, Americans are fine with children watching violence.

Kind of depends on the level of violence and when we're talking. People are mostly not ok with kids watching gory stuff. Blood can still get censored or is just avoided depending on context. And the context and landscape has shifted a bit since the D&D cartoon was airing forty years ago.

 

[billd91]

I don’t want to throw stones, but you guys called it Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles and made Michelangelo get rid of his nunchucks because it wasn’t appropriate for children. Culturally speaking, Americans are fine with children watching violence.

It's an idiosyncratic mix of contrasts, really, that's hard to predict on any particular specific topic.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I don’t want to throw stones, but you guys called it Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles and made Michelangelo get rid of his nunchucks because it wasn’t appropriate for children. Culturally speaking, Americans are fine with children watching violence.

At just that time there had been bunch kids injured by throwing stars and nun-chucks (I remember seeing a lot of them around school myself) and nun-chucks are the ultimate in more-dangerous-to-yourself weapons if you don’t know what you are doing. So there was a hysteria about anything ninja. Still plenty of people shooting guns on kid’s TV shows though.

 

[Bedrockgames]

At just that time there had been bunch kids injured by throwing stars and nun-chucks (I remember seeing a lot of them around school myself) and nun-chucks are the ultimate in more-dangerous-to-yourself weapons if you don’t know what you are doing. So there was a hysteria about anything ninja. Still plenty of people shooting guns on kid’s TV shows though.

American entertainment for kids used to have lots of guns when so was a kid. And toy guns were common. Guns and violence are still common in regular movies.But a string of pretty horrific incidents that is still ongoing has I think caused changes in kids shows and films. In a way you guys are both kind of right IMO

 

[Voadam]

I think if the online reaction is torches and pitchforks or tar and feathers and you are getting death threats, phone calls to your family and employer, then you have an overreaction.

That seems like quite a high bar.