Yet another Ghostbusters movie

[Tonguez]

In other news, that hopefully won't lead to a mod swinging mod text :

Leslie Jones Calls ‘Ghostbusters’ Sequel ‘Insulting’

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/leslie-jones-calls-ghostbusters-reboot-032340755.html

Leslie Jones was the most insulting thing to happen to a Ghostbusters movie and her opinion is ridiculous on so many levels

 

[cbwjm]

Leslie Jones was the most insulting thing to happen to a Ghostbusters movie and her opinion is ridiculous on so many levels

Why was she the most insulting thing to happen to a Ghostbusters movie?

 

[billd91]

She might not realise that it isn't a male driven cast and is instead a teenager driven cast with male and female cast members. As is, movies seem to get reboots all the time. We've had plenty of spider-man movies that ignore the previous set of movies, a couple of hulk movies that don't seem to be part of the main MCU (or maybe the edward norton one is but he was just replaced because he didn't come back?). Death at a Funeral has had two versions; the last transformers movie, Bumblebee, ignores the Michael Bay movies; Batman has had a few movie series now. It happens, movies get rebooted and previous versions get ignored.

Maybe - but I can see where she's coming from. By reaching back to the original for the latest announcement, it's almost like they're trying to repudiate the 2016 version and get a do-over reboot. We may get plenty of reboots out of Hollywood, but not everything has the same context of man-baby driven rage and controversy.

 

[Umbran]

It takes a certain level of incompentance to turn your fans toxic. I mean why would you do that?

Oh, no, the filmmakers didn't turn the fans toxic. The fans did it to themselves, over the years when there were no films, by buying in to a level of entitlement unsupported by reason, evidence, good taste, or anything more structurally sound than a wet noodle.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Remember, “fan” is derived from “fanatic”. Not exactly terminology implying rational and measured responses to issues involving the object of fandom.

 

[Tonguez]

Maybe - but I can see where she's coming from. By reaching back to the original for the latest announcement, it's almost like they're trying to repudiate the 2016 version and get a do-over reboot. We may get plenty of reboots out of Hollywood, but not everything has the same context of man-baby driven rage and controversy.

doing the 'next' Ghostbusters movie has been talked about for a decade or more, but the 2016 movie chose to not be a continuation but a complete reboot, it cut itself off from the original and chose instead to pin itself to an 'all girl' gimmick. It didn't work, the story and jokes fell flat. The makers of the movie took a gamble on a gimmick but failed to give the fans something they wanted.


The new movie being a continuation (and apparently the original cast are returning) is what the fans have been asking for, thats no guarantee of quality but it does mean the movie is following the legacy and not being pinned on a gimmick.

Why was she the most insulting thing to happen to a Ghostbusters movie?

Leslie Jones is a ghetto caricature, she is the only non-scientist on the team, she's incompetent and is only there to be a loud, brash sidekick.

 

[billd91]

doing the 'next' Ghostbusters movie has been talked about for a decade or more, but the 2016 movie chose to not be a continuation but a complete reboot, it cut itself off from the original and chose instead to pin itself to an 'all girl' gimmick. It didn't work, the story and jokes fell flat. The makers of the movie took a gamble on a gimmick but failed to give the fans something they wanted.

The new movie being a continuation (and apparently the original cast are returning) is what the fans have been asking for, thats no guarantee of quality but it does mean the movie is following the legacy and not being pinned on a gimmick.

Except it's probably not what they've been asking for if it's going to focus on teen Ghostbusters (cue backlash #2 in 2 years - assuming the project even gets of the ground?).

The 'next' Ghostbusters that had been talked about for years had been continually torpedoed by Bill Murray's lack of interest/approval. So finally they decided to side step it with another idea - and guess what - Bill Murray was on board for a cameo (just like Dan Aykroyd and Ernie Hudson). And no, most of the jokes didn't fall flat or on a simply disinterested public. If that were the case you'd be likely to see a much more balanced response from men and women because there'd be no reason to expect them to differ too much - but you don't. The negative responses are overwhelmingly men (like 80% overwhelmingly men). It's not simply a matter of giving fans something that didn't live up to the hype - it was a very sexist response.

 

[cbwjm]

Yeah. At the moment, I'm not really too keen on this sequel. The sequel I would have liked to see is probably 10-15 years too late. Might end up being one of those Netflix movies that I'll watch at some point which is, I think, where the reboot is currently.

 

[Morrus]

I'm sure I'll watch any movie called Ghostbusters. I'm a sucker for Ghostbusters.

 

[Imaculata]

With respect, that result had very little to do with the trailer, and lots to do with toxic fans.

Oh, thats a load of nonsense. I watched that trailer and before I saw it I was genuine interested at the idea of a new GB movie. I couldn't give a damn if it was an all ladies or all men cast. But after watching that trailer, with Leslie Jones loudly screaming at the screen, I was so put off by that film. I'm sure I am not in the minority for having that opinion. That trailer was absolutely terrible. I'm sure a lot of fans felt the same way.

The negative responses are overwhelmingly men (like 80% overwhelmingly men). It's not simply a matter of giving fans something that didn't live up to the hype - it was a very sexist response.

Saying fans are sexist for not liking a terrible trailer, is one of the most sexist things I've heard for a long while. That trailer was absolute garbage, and the gender of the actors has nothing to do with that. It even got basic facts about the series wrong... how do you mess that up? Sony was in a terrible hurry to quickly put together a different trailer, after they removed most of the negative comments on the trailer (specifically those with polite and solid arguments against it).