TSR The Making and Breaking of Deities & Demigods

Bitbrain

Lost in Dark Sun
Is this the book featuring a weird yeti god?

I could swear I read a book with this exact cover art sometime around 14 years ago at a friend's house, but I remember almost nothing about it . . . Except a vague memory of some sort of horned ape god-demon-thing.

Which deities and pantheons did the book detail?
 

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dave2008

Legend
Is this the book featuring a weird yeti god?

I could swear I read a book with this exact cover art sometime around 14 years ago at a friend's house, but I remember almost nothing about it . . . Except a vague memory of some sort of horned ape god-demon-thing.

Which deities and pantheons did the book detail?

I can't give you all the deities, monsters, and heroes provided in the book (way to many), but here are the pantheons covered:

American Indian Mythos
Arthurian Heroes
Babylonian Mythos
Celtic Mythos
Central American Mythos
Chinese Mythos
Cthulhu Mythos
Egyptian Mythos
Finish Mythos
Greek Mythos
Indian Mythos
Japanese Mythos
Melnibonean Mythos
Newhon Mythos
Nonhuman's Deities (including Moradin, Corellon, Loth, Maglubiyet, Gruumsh, etc.)
Norse Mythos
Sumerian Mythos

EDIT: Here is the index of Proper Names form the book (sorry poor scan):
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dave2008

Legend
I’ve tried multiple times to get an original copy but each time the bids climbs past me cutoff point but maybe one day I can pick it up.

Thanks for sharing

Check half-price books. Every once and a while one shows up (people just don't know what they have some times)
 





Yaarel

He Mage
I can't give you all the deities, monsters, and heroes provided in the book (way to many), but here are the pantheons covered:

American Indian Mythos
Arthurian Heroes
Babylonian Mythos
Celtic Mythos
Central American Mythos
Chinese Mythos
Cthulhu Mythos
Egyptian Mythos
Finish Mythos
Greek Mythos
Indian Mythos
Japanese Mythos
Melnibonean Mythos
Newhon Mythos
Nonhuman's Deities (including Moradin, Corellon, Loth, Maglubiyet, Gruumsh, etc.)
Norse Mythos
Sumerian Mythos

The term ‘mythos’ is neutral enough. It is appropriate to refer to an ‘Arthurian mythos’. As many scholars do (ethnographers, mythographers, Jungian psychologists, and so on).



But to describe certain Native American tribes as having a ‘pantheon’, is ignorant, verging on offensive.

The term ‘pantheon’ is literally a Hellenistic term with tons of Hellenistic baggage. Its meaning is inappropriate to describe many Nonhellenistic cultures.

Because of historical forces relating to Christianity and Islam, Hellenism today influences swaths of the human species. Nevertheless, Hellenists lack the right to tell an other culture what it believes.

To a some degree, this list in the Deities & Demigods is a misappropriation of other peoples cultures. Especially, if there is little interest to understand or self-identify with these cultures.

To turn Africa into Tarzan or Scandinavia into Conan ... can go wrong.



I want D&D and D&D players to be able to handle reallife spiritual traditions − including Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and others. I would probably add Communism as a sacred philosophical tradition.

But to do this, must come with sensitivity and respect ... and real facts.



Consider how reallife Hinduism is presented in the exact same way as Chthulu.

If Deities & Demigods ever exists again, it probably wont look the same.
 

dave2008

Legend
The term ‘mythos’ is neutral enough. It is appropriate to refer to an ‘Arthurian mythos’. As many scholars do (ethnographers, mythographers, Jungian psychologists, and so on).



But to describe certain Native American tribes as having a ‘pantheon’, is ignorant, verging on offensive.

The term ‘pantheon’ is literally a Hellenistic term with tons of Hellenistic baggage. Its meaning is inappropriate to describe many Nonhellenistic cultures.

Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think Mythos = Pantheon. You could ask James, but it seems that Mythos may have been used for a reason. I always understood that Mythos was more loose than "Pantheon"


I want D&D and D&D players to be able to handle reallife spiritual traditions − including Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and others. I would probably add Communism as a sacred philosophical tradition.

But to do this, must come with sensitivity and respect ... and real facts.

Consider how reallife Hinduism is presented in the exact same way as Chthulu.

If Deities & Demigods ever exists again, it probably wont look the same.

Have you read the book? I am not a scholar of philosophy or religion, but it seems more respectful than you suggest (at least of 70-80s RPG book). FYI, the "Indian Mythos" is not trying to represent Hinduism (it, in fact, says it uses more Vedic than Hindu concepts). If your worried that an RPG would provide game information for entities in fictional and real religions, well that ship sailed a long time ago.

Also, here is the preface - it might make you feel a bit better (again sorry for the poor scan):
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Finally, I will say that this book inspired my interest in myth, legends, and religion. It served as spring board to investigate other cultures and beliefs. I think that is a good thing :)
 


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