D&D 5E Jeremy Crawford Discusses the Wild Soul Barbarian and Path of the Astral Self Monk

[Paul Farquhar]

Just because you do not know the influence where the Barbarian subclass comes from doesn't mean it's not working off of a specific archetype.

If you have any idea where it comes from, I would love to hear it. Because so far no one has come up with anything. Which means it must be either:

a) Extremly obscure or;
b) completely fails to resemble the thing it is meant to resemble.

(as a point of comparison, the Invention wizard: it's archetype was clearly "mad scientist". No problem there. The problem was seeing where a mad scientist fit in D&D).

And the mechanics of "infinite spell slots" are something to work out in fine-tuning, the flavor is the point for UA.

Maybe, but it's so obviously broken I can't understand how someone could get as far as committing it to paper without realising.

 

[Kurotowa]

Nah, man, Spelljammer confirmed.

Seriously, though, these are probably for the Rick and Morty box set.

I think the R&M thing is another themed starter set, like the Stranger Things one. Wasn't there a hint dropped recently that they were considering a second Xanathar's type book of player options? I can see this being the first sample of the material they're brainstorming for that.

 

[Parmandur]

If you have any idea where it comes from, I would love to hear it. Because so far no one has come up with anything. Which means it must be either:

a) Extremly obscure or;
b) completely fails to resemble the thing it is meant to resemble.

(as a point of comparison, the Invention wizard: it's archetype was clearly "mad scientist". No problem there. The problem was seeing where a mad scientist fit in D&D).


Maybe, but it's so obviously broken I can't understand how someone could get as far as committing it to paper without realising.

I think it is probably also Anime related, honestly, based on Crawford's discussion.

To break it requires a very specific set-up, with a healing slot loop, that is easy enough to plug up. We'll see if it has traction.

 

[Parmandur]

I think the R&M thing is another themed starter set, like the Stranger Things one. Wasn't there a hint dropped recently that they were considering a second Xanathar's type book of player options? I can see this being the first sample of the material they're brainstorming for that.

It is a box set with a low level adventure, but they have not billed it a "Starter Set" as such.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I think it is probably also Anime related, honestly, based on Crawford's discussion.

Anime and manga aren't alien to me, and a couple of my players are massive fans. And it didn't make sense to any of us. We spotted Stand Astral Body Monk = JoJo immediately.

To break it requires a very specific set-up, with a healing slot loop, that is easy enough to plug up. We'll see if it has traction.

It just needs a "per short rest" on it. But still, it shouldn't have even reached prototype.

 

[Kurotowa]

It is a box set with a low level adventure, but they have not billed it a "Starter Set" as such.

Still, not the sort of thing I'd expect new subclasses to debut in. Especially not when WotC is going out of their way to make the AL "+1 book" rule hold up.

 

[Parmandur]

Still, not the sort of thing I'd expect new subclasses to debut in. Especially not when WotC is going out of their way to not make the AL "+1 book" rule hold up.

WotC is very unpredictable, and they have no compunction about reprinting.

A XGtE follow-up has been mentioned as something that might be seen in a few years, nothing around the corner.

If this is not for Rick and Morty, I think it is probably for the next setting that they are mulling, but I'm not sure what that might be: the ydo not seem Dark Sun-ish, maybe Planescape?

 

[Shardstone]

How can there be an origin if everything derives from something else? Answer this paradox and I'll concede that Fantasy needs to come from something, and then I'll say just because you can't see where the Wild Soul comes from doesn't mean it doesn't come from anything.

Got answers for both of these?

 

[GreyLord]

Since we are on this...and people are talking about things not even touched upon (or touched lightly upon but not really integrated)...

From 1e

Acrobat
Sohei
Bushi (fighter with scavenging abilities)
Ninja?? (as in the more traditional type)
Yakuza
Shukenja
Wu-jen

Dragonlance

Though they have indicated replacements from SCAG in saying certain paths/archtypes could be replaced as the Dragonlance ones...they never specifically spelled these classes out which were also in AD&D

Knight of Solomnia (Knight of the Crown, Sword, Rose)
Wizard of High Sorcery (Moon phase wizards)
Merchant
Mariner

2e has more than I can count when you take kits into consideration

3e has a few

Duskblade
Factotum
Marshall/Warlord
Beguiler
Spell Thief

This does not touch upon the Prestige classes of which you start getting into the 2e kits again.

So...it may be that his wording was slightly amiss. Probably more of what the main classes they could think of and that had positive response overall have been covered, but not necessarily ALL the main class types that people could name or that they knew about??

 

[Shardstone]

What fantasy did the Duskblade and Factotum come from? What mythic tale is that?