D&D (2024) D&D 6th edition - What do you want to see?

[Guest 6801328]

Wasn't meant to be insulting, sorry. If it's any consolation, I like the Champion.

I was just using it as another tern for super simple class that doesn't take a lot of mental energy to use effectively.

I'm not sure I'd count the decision of when to spend a few superiority as "mentally taxing." It's little minor tiny additional factor added onto the baseline considerations of where to move, what target to pick, when to Dodge or Shove or Grapple or Disengage, etc. etc. etc. And champions (not to mention barbarians) do all of those things.

 

[BookBarbarian]

I know veteran players, 30+ year players that prefer the Champion as it hearkens back to those 1e Fighters. I don't see value in taking away those type of options that those players prefer just because some others think the are for "noobs".

 

[Guest 6801328]

I know veteran players, 30+ year players that prefer the Champion as it hearkens back to those 1e Fighters. I don't see value in taking away those type of options that those players prefer just because some others think the are for "noobs".

I know, right?

Kids these days! They think it's all about keybinds.

/grumpyoldcuss

 

[S'mon]

I agree with the people saying it should be a semi-minor step up that is fully compatible with 5e, if only because of how popular it is and making a completely new version would anger all the new fans they got.

For an actual addition to this thread, I think they should revisit the idea of all fighters having Superiority Dice, because having a "braindead" option for the newbies isn't that necessary nowadays, and even if it is, you kinda have the Barbarian for that.

LOL - I have seen plenty of newbies & (especially) grognards struggle with the complexity of the Barbarian. Champion is at the high end of what many can handle.

 

[FlyingChihuahua]

LOL - I have seen plenty of newbies & (especially) grognards struggle with the complexity of the Barbarian. Champion is at the high end of what many can handle.

Y'know, I might think you're having a laugh, but I would believe that this has actually happened.

 

[S'mon]

Y'know, I might think you're having a laugh, but I would believe that this has actually happened.

If anything I understated a bit, I rem one 1e AD&D guy quit because he could not handle the Champion's Action Points & Second Wind.

 

[Blue]

I agree with the people saying it should be a semi-minor step up that is fully compatible with 5e, if only because of how popular it is and making a completely new version would anger all the new fans they got.

Funny, I'm the exact opposite. As long as 5e has legs I want it to keep kicking, so a "mostly 5e, and you can convert your stuff but we'll be coming out with everything again so if you do you might have some mid-campaign surprises" is so completely off the table it's not funny.

If 6th Ed isn't a major departure, then just keep 5e. None of that "5.5e" stuff.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Y'know, I might think you're having a laugh, but I would believe that this has actually happened.

As an anecdote: most of my players play Champions, mayyyyyybe a Thief if they feel extreme that day. And having a group of 8, I can tell that I appreciate people not overthinking things with a bunch of options

Oh, and the most spellcasting we have at the table is the dedicated spellcaster player, you know the one who plays:

• A warlock with no attack cantrip and only utility spells, using a crossbow in battle with a dex mod of +1.
• A moon druid who only shapeshift as small animals to hitch a ride in people backpack, with cantrip to start a campfire and one to predict the weather...in the underdark.

God, I love'em!

 

[cmad1977]

Insulting to those that like Barbarians too.

When to reckless Attack and When to rage are more tactical decisions than most people give them credit for.

Yes. I’m constantly in groups as a barbarian and the group memebers are always
‘Why aren’t your raging? You should always rage!’

To which I reply
‘Calm down, squishies.’

 

[Guest 6801328]

If anything I understated a bit, I rem one 1e AD&D guy quit because he could not handle the Champion's Action Points & Second Wind.

I wonder what his version of that story is.