How would you change the new Star Wars trilogy

[lowkey13]

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[dragoner]

How about spinning it that Rey and Kylo get together to rule, and due to her greater power, throws Kylo aside as a weak little man to become the sole Empress: Blood for the Blood Queen.

Rey in a red gown and black lipstick, and with a wave of her hand, legions lay waste to entire worlds...

I mentioned this to my 15 year old niece after we saw Rise of Skywalker, and she thought it would have made the series more interesting.

 

[Imaculata]

Again, bringing back the Emperor is the worst idea, because it retroactively vitiates Vader's sacrifice.

It doesn't undo what Vader did. That emperor is still dead. Rise of Skywalker says that the real emperor has had many clones over the years, all of which apparently have his same powers and are just as bad. It's a dumb plot, but I don't think that makes Vader's sacrifice have any less meaning.

 

[Ovinomancer]

It doesn't undo what Vader did. That emperor is still dead. Rise of Skywalker says that the real emperor has had many clones over the years, all of which apparently have his same powers and are just as bad. It's a dumb plot, but I don't think that makes Vader's sacrifice have any less meaning.

Did we watch different movies? I recall no such statements.

 

[lowkey13]

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[Eltab]

Rather than resurrect Emperor Palpatine or use a clone, I would use a 'droid AI that has been extensively programmed to copy how he thinks. Make appearances like Ep 1 where you only see Sidious as a cloaked figure in a hologram. Palpatine looked into the future extensively and could give the droid AI the records of all that, and an action plan to implement.
Why should Artoo be the only droid that is practically human?
In addition, Artoo can enable the Heroes' victory by scrambling the AI or shutting down vital equipment it controls (such as the hologram), trapping it unable to interact with the rest of the world. R2-D2 was able to reprogram the Falcon's sabotaged hyperdrive, this would be variation on a theme.

 

[Ovinomancer]

That's the whole issue of heritable, but not hereditary. It's a bunch of mumbo jumbo, but it's why (for example) they made up some BS about the jedi not marrying in some thing or the other - no dynasties (not just no attachments).

So you can say that the force is like diarrhea; it runs in the genes.

Personally, I want my force to be less gross.

I... what? Where the heck did you go, here.

You said force users are tied to bloodlines so it's a new thing that there are new force sensitives shown in TLJ.

I said, no there were plenty of Jedi before that were tied to bloodlines.

You took that to mean that I said there were no bloodlines, and held up the Skywalkers as proof of bloodlines existing, and also that the Force is heritable (something I didn't mention).

I said maybe I wasn't clear, but I was talking about the non-Skywalker Jedi, including the mentioned other students of Luke after RotJ alongside Ben Solo that Ben Solo killed or recruited to be Knights of Ren.

You've responded with further discussion of heritability of the Force and said that you'd rather that it not be all inherited.

This is a very weird discussion. Are you taking the piss?

Well, the universe of the movies does seem awfully small when everyone important has to be related to a Skywalker or (now) a Palpatine. Not my cup of tea. YMMV.

Obi-Wan wasn't related to a Palpatine or Skywalker.

Mace Windu wasn't related to a Palpatine or Skywalker.

Yoda wasn't related to a Palpatine or Skywalker.

Count Dooku wasn't related to a Palpatine or Skywalker.

Qui-Gon Jin wasn't related to a Palpatine or Skywalker.

That's just the movies. Get into the other canon space and you have Ezra, Kanan, Ashoka Tano, and a huge host of other force users not related to a Palpatine or Skywalker.

 

[Imaculata]

Did we watch different movies? I recall no such statements.

It is hinted at by the emperor himself (though perhaps not clearly explained). This means that both the emperor from RotJ and senator Palpatine would have been clones. But considering how busy the movie is, I'm not surprised many people missed it. At that point I think the majority of the audience is tuned out or only paying half attention.

The inclusion of the Emperor is unnecessary and manages to wreck the real trilogy.

Unnecessary? Absolutely. But the 'real trilogy' was already wrecked by the prequels, in which Anakin is an unlikable a-hole who murders children... unless you simply ignore those movies happened, in which case the original trilogy remains a timeless classic.

Bladerunner is also still a classic movie, despite the recent sequel now deciding that Deckard was a replicant all along, only because it was a popular fan theory (there's nothing in the original movie to indicate that this was the case).

John Carpenter's the Thing is also still an awesome movie, despite the awful CGI-filled prequel that we got a few years ago (which also introduced a lot of plot holes).

Those things don't affect me that much.

 

[Wolfpack48]

Rather than resurrect Emperor Palpatine or use a clone, I would use a 'droid AI that has been extensively programmed to copy how he thinks. Make appearances like Ep 1 where you only see Sidious as a cloaked figure in a hologram. Palpatine looked into the future extensively and could give the droid AI the records of all that, and an action plan to implement.
Why should Artoo be the only droid that is practically human?
In addition, Artoo can enable the Heroes' victory by scrambling the AI or shutting down vital equipment it controls (such as the hologram), trapping it unable to interact with the rest of the world. R2-D2 was able to reprogram the Falcon's sabotaged hyperdrive, this would be variation on a theme.

A droid or AI villain might have been interesting. Leftover Empire tech that develops a mind of its own?

 

[lowkey13]

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