D&D 5E Reasonable Movement and Athletic Feats?

[DND_Reborn]

"Estimate" is bulleted under Other Intelligence Checks. Something to think about.

I did, and you should read the rest of the bullet and provide it if you are going to use it:

Estimate the value of a precious item.

So yes, I chose Intelligence (and not Wisdom) because it is an estimate... I guess I am already thinking about that.

You might want to think some more about what part of Perception is used for. Here, I'll give it to you:

From Perception:
It measures your general awareness of your surroundings and the keenness of your senses.

Keenness of your senses includes your eyesight and also your depth perception, both key in judging distances.

Something for you to think about, huh?

 

[DND_Reborn]

You seem to think I’m making an argument about how muscles work. I’m not.

Ok, but given your statement:

I just don’t buy the argument that any fast-twitch muscle activity leans toward being a strength activity.

it seemed as though you were.

 

[mrpopstar]

Why? The PCs can, IME, cross any chasm with enough ingenuity and teamwork. If I put the Grand Canyon somewhere, I won’t make a thin spot just because I want an easier crossing.

Does the intricate approach to measuring jump distance explored in this thread apply to jumping across the Grand Canyon?

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Ok, but given your statement:

I just don’t buy the argument that any fast-twitch muscle activity leans toward being a strength activity.

it seemed as though you were.

No. A strength activity refers to D&D. I don’t buy that any fast-twitch muscle activity leans toward a D&D Strength Ability Score activity. That better?

 

[mrpopstar]

I did, and you should read the rest of the bullet and provide it if you are going to use it:

Estimate the value of a precious item.

So yes, I chose Intelligence (and not Wisdom) because it is an estimate... I guess I am already thinking about that.

You might want to think some more about what part of Perception is used for. Here, I'll give it to you:

From Perception:
It measures your general awareness of your surroundings and the keenness of your senses.

Keenness of your senses includes your eyesight and also your depth perception, both key in judging distances.

Something for you to think about, huh?

Consider your continued use of the word "judging" and look up the definition of "estimate."

 

[DND_Reborn]

No. A strength activity refers to D&D. I don’t buy that any fast-twitch muscle activity leans toward a D&D Strength Ability Score activity. That better?

LOL not really. If that is your view, I still recommend reading the article about fast-twitch muscles, since they are the primary muscles used in the strength activities used in D&D (jump, lifting, etc.). Slow-twitch muscles are used for lower-power repetitive and slow/steady motions.

Anyway, look at it or not, if you don't there is no point in me trying to convince you.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Does the intricate approach to measuring jump distance explored in this thread apply to jumping across the Grand Canyon?

Of course. Depending on where you are on the canyon, even magical jumping might not be sufficient, though. Might need to get creative with a longbow and rope, or it may even just be a matter of going down the side and climbing the other side, if the party doesn’t have flight.

Of course the party would know the canyon is there long before getting to it, and a local mightknow the lay of the land well enough to navigate the group to a shorter crossing point where a magical jump or an improvised rope bridge is possible.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

LOL not really. If that is your view, I still recommend reading the article about fast-twitch muscles, since they are the primary muscles used in the strength activities used in D&D (jump, lifting, etc.). Slow-twitch muscles are used for lower-power repetitive and slow/steady motions.

Anyway, look at it or not, if you don't there is no point in me trying to convince you.

Yeah we are talking pat each other, bud.

 

[DND_Reborn]

Consider your continued use of the word "judging" and look up the definition of "estimate."

Are you even reading my posts? I wonder sometimes...

Estimate = Intelligence (we agree on this at least).

Perception involves your senses. Someone with better senses (mostly keener eyesight in this case) will be better than someone whose eyesight is worse. Thus, they will have an edge at judging distances. Why do you think elves (renowned in literature and film for having keen eyesight, etc.) have proficiency in Perception as a racial trait?

My best friend wears glasses and has horrible eyesight without them. I have better than 20/15 vision (better than 20/20). Without his glasses, my perception is much better than his and I would definitely be able to judge distances better than he could.

Tying Perception to Intelligence in this case is a perfect example of linking skills to ability scores other than the default (the idea expressed in the DMG). Many people also link Intimidation to Strength, for the same reason.

 

[DND_Reborn]

Yeah we are talking pat each other, bud.

This might end up being one of those points that would have been better resolved face-to-face where everything could be discussed in detail and made clearer.