D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

Testing let’s you know who has it now. That helps you trace contacts. That helps you isolate the infected to prevent further transmission,

That's what we're doing here but it's reasonably early still.

Hence who I said early own.

Not everyone gets tested there's not enough. Some people should have higher priority, healthcare workers for example.

 

[FrogReaver]

That's what we're doing here but it's reasonably early still.

Hence who I said early own.

Not everyone gets tested there's not enough. Some people should have higher priority, healthcare workers for example.

Testing can't keep up with exponential growth. unless it's early testing.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

That's what we're doing here but it's reasonably early still.

Hence who I said early own.

Not everyone gets tested there's not enough. Some people should have higher priority, healthcare workers for example.

Thats why I said after the pandemic, universal or nearly universal testing could become the norm.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

When somewhere between 100,000 and 1,000,000 already have it in the U.S. that doesn't matter anymore.

Sure it does. Unless you’re just going to accept the possibility of 100% infection, you still need to know what the virus is doing, where. That also helps you track mutation rates and the number (currently 8) and nature of the strains.

 

[FrogReaver]

Sure it does. Unless you’re just going to accept the possibility of 100% infection, you still need to know what the virus is doing, where. That also helps you track mutation rates and the number (currently 8) and nature of the strains.

Population sampling not population testing

 

[Umbran]

You should really reevaluate your beliefs in light on new evidence.

An update about this "evidence". It appears this is a case of a news service getting ahead of actual evidence. The veterinary and epidemiology experts in Belgium are rather upset that the news was reported in this way before proper confirmation was made.

What follows is a tad gross, my apologies.

The test in question was from a fecal sample that the cat's owner (who were themselves positive and highly symptomatic for covid-19) took from droppings from the floor of their apartment. They were not from a proper clean rectal sample. And, there has been no workup of the animal to show if the animal's symptoms could have another cause. The chances that the owner contaminated the sample and produced a false positive for the cat are high. There is currently intent to do an antibody test on the cat, but that will take a while.

 

[Sacrosanct]

If you’re wondering why I have a pessimistic and cynical view of the US over other developed nations, this is why. Basically, don’t go to the hospital for anything unless you absolutely have to now. And my heart is breaking for the several personal friends of mine who are nurses.

Im not a medical health professional, but I did go to NBC school in the military, and what our current policies are regarding reusing PPE is a cross contamination disaster.

 

[Umbran]

Wow. So much emotionally loaded language. So little external evidence cited.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Wow. So much emotionally loaded language. So little external evidence cited.

Probably because it's so obvious and overwhelming. It would be like asking for external evidence the stock market has tanked recently. Is there really a need to cite obvious external examples, when the problems with our hospitals reusing PPE, having no PPE, and restrictions on using PPE is literally all over the news 24/7? I mean, there is a reason why nurses and doctors are protesting (which is also all over the news).

This is a pandemic, thousands are dying, our system is woefully inadequate, and our leadership has done possibly the worst job addressing this as one could. Of course it's going to be emotional language. Only a sociopath would not use emotional language when it's their friends and family that are suffering and dying. Whitewashing, candy coating, minimalizing, or whatever other term you want to use is not helping, and making the problem worse. Because it makes people think the problem isn't as bad as it is, and delays appropriate response to address it. We've literally seen how devastating that is in real time. The only way to take appropriate measures is to be honest and truthful with what you're facing.

 

[Sacrosanct]

This is why downplaying the situation is dangerous. This was written 2 weeks ago. As we can see now, the actions of those who were downplaying it directly led to many people not taking appropriate steps to help mitigate it (social distancing, sheltering in place, etc), and actively caused the spread to be worse. Which means thousands more are suffering and dying as a result.