D&D and the rising pandemic

[Dannyalcatraz]

Eventually, universal or near universal testing will be the norm, in all likelihood. Especially if a vaccine or effective antivirals don’t materialize as quickly as we hope.

Or ever.

 

[Zardnaar]

Eventually, universal or near universal testing will be the norm, in all likelihood. Especially if a vaccine or effective antivirals don’t materialize as quickly as we hope.

Or ever.

We had discussion about no vaccine a while ago on another forum.

Great leap backwards.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Right now I think Germany’s mortality rate is half a percent. We should be looking at what they are doing, and implementing best practices here. I know that won’t happen, cuz egos, but we absolutely should be.

I was just watching CNN International, and Ecuador is in bad shape. Already hospitals are completely full, and reports of dead bodies just left out in the street are surfacing.

 

[Zardnaar]

Right now I think Germany’s mortality rate is half a percent. We should be looking at what they are doing, and implementing best practices here. I know that won’t happen, cuz egos, but we absolutely should be.

I was just watching CNN International, and Ecuador is in bad shape. Already hospitals are completely full, and reports of dead bodies just left out in the street are surfacing.

Germany has a very high number of nurses per capita and one of the best health systems in the world.

The European Social Democracies are probably going to do reasonably well along with maybe New Zealand if we're lucky.

 

[FrogReaver]

Eventually, universal or near universal testing will be the norm, in all likelihood. Especially if a vaccine or effective antivirals don’t materialize as quickly as we hope.

Or ever.

I'm afraid by the time that's possible there won't be a need for it.

 

[Zardnaar]

I'm afraid by the time that's possible there won't be a need for it.

Ding ding. Testing mostly a placebo effect unless you get on top of it early with tracing etc.

It's already to late testings only really useful now in certain areas.

Would be useful for round two perhaps.

 

[FrogReaver]

Ding ding. Testing mostly a placebo effect unless you get on top of it early with tracing etc.

It's already to late testings only really useful now in certain areas.

Would be useful for round two perhaps.

Most good testing can do at the moment is confirming people had it so they can go back to work unafraid IMO.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I'm afraid by the time that's possible there won't be a need for it.

Why would you think that?

Even after the pandemic passes, Covid-19 won’t be done with us. As a zoonotic virus, there’s going to be some reservoir for it in the wild.

Based on the data from other coronaviruses, any exposure-based immunity or resistance to Covid-19 will be limited.

Do You Get Immunity After Recovering From A Case Of Coronavirus?

The hope is that a person who has recovered from COVID-19 would have some protection against reinfection in the future. Here's what researchers do — and don't — know.

www.npr.org

"Most respiratory viruses only give you a period of relative protection. I'm talking about a year or two. That's what we know about the seasonal coronaviruses," says Falsey.

In studies, human volunteers who agreed to be experimentally inoculated with a seasonal coronavirus showed that even people with preexisting antibodies could still get infected and have symptoms.

They noted SARS antibodies were detectable in victims even in 2020, a couple years for MERS survivors. But just because someone has antibodies, it doesn’t mean they’re safe from reinfection- coronaviruses are notorious for reinfecting people:

It's also possible that, for some reason, the body's immune response to seasonal coronaviruses is just not that robust or that something about the infection itself may inhibit the body's ability to develop long-term immunity.

"Maybe the antibodies are not protective, and that is why, even though they are present, they don't work very well," says Frieman.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Testing mostly a placebo effect unless you get on top of it early with tracing etc.

Testing let’s you know who has it now. That helps you trace contacts. That helps you isolate the infected to prevent further transmission,

 

[FrogReaver]

Testing let’s you know who has it now. That helps you trace contacts. That helps you isolate the infected to prevent further transmission,

When somewhere between 100,000 and 1,000,000 already have it in the U.S. that doesn't matter anymore.