D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

So, here you go. Find and cite an instance of official guidance that said "stay home or die" in the US. Please.

The guidance Zardnaar had was more stingent than anywhere in the US. And by his report, folks basically hewed to it, and it worked (He can correct me if that's inaccurate). In the US, official guidance has been to keep unessential businesses closed, not get to gather in large groups, keep social distance, wear masks, minimize your outings when you can, and so on.

Consider this - if the public transportation system in the locality is still running, the official guidance is not "stay home or die".

This discussion of the guidance will not be constructive if the guidance is not described accurately. Hyperbole is exactly what we do not need to understand the dynamic between people and guidance.

Jacinda invoked the war years, her public support us through the roof and her and/or the director general of health have been giving daily briefings.

They assumed there would be some rule breakers.

Even here there's a limit. You can order people not to smoke pot but they're still gonna do it.

It's still not 100% what they did was legal but they can sort that out later. The courts were mostly closed anyway. Cultures also different here as well. Very broadly speaking there's traits I notice a lot more in Americans, NW Europeans and say eastern Europe.

One of my best friends is American. He jokes every NZ male knows how to play rugby, perform the haka and drive a forklift.

Well Jacindas the rugby captain and seems to know what she's on about so it pays to listen. The cops were also strict on things. Business fails to comply it just gets shut down.

Also huge social pressure on the rule breakers.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

I think the problems with the flu vaccine (trying to hit 5 strains with one bullet, picking the wrong strain, ran out of supply one year) are giving other vaccines a bad rep by association.
The shots I got as a child were known to work and to keep you healthy, not be a best-guess.

My kids started school as the chickenpox vaccine came available. I'm not enthused to push everybody to get one, because I know from personal experience there is a workable (but unpleasant) alternative. But I also won't give anybody grief for putting that in their battery of standard "get my kids ready for school" shots. It's been long enough since introduction that we know the chickenpox shot works and keeps you healthy.

I think a lot of the people who don't trust flu vaccines are people who were like "I got the flu shot one year, and still got the flu! What gives?!?!"
I've encountered many people like that who don't truly understand how vaccines or the flu works. The problem with those polls is that they don't actually measure how many people are truly antivaxxers, instead of people who are just unsure about how flu shots work.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

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WHO has said Covid-19 may never go away. We can't predict the future, it may just mutate itself out of existence, but we need to prepare for the worst case scenario.

 

[Deset Gled]

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WHO has said Covid-19 may never go away. We can't predict the future, it may just mutate itself out of existence, but we need to prepare for the worst case scenario.

That's not as dire as it sounds. At its peak tuberculosis caused roughly 25% of urban deaths. It's never gone away either, and it's something we still actively monitor for. But it's well managed and not something we panic about.

 

[ad_hoc]

The largest outbreaks in the US are now in places who vote heavily Republican.

New US coronavirus hotspots appear in Republican heartlands

Surge in infections in red state towns and rural communities as rise in cases contradicts Trump assertion of rapid decline

www.theguardian.com

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

The largest outbreaks in the US are now in places who vote heavily Republican.

New US coronavirus hotspots appear in Republican heartlands

Surge in infections in red state towns and rural communities as rise in cases contradicts Trump assertion of rapid decline

www.theguardian.com

I know. My city is one of those areas. We're one of the worst breakouts on all of the West Coast of America.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

That's not as dire as it sounds. At its peak tuberculosis caused roughly 25% of urban deaths. It's never gone away either, and it's something we still actively monitor for. But it's well managed and not something we panic about.

It really depends. We can't make guesses on other diseases' behaviors. Very different cases. We 100% shouldn't panic, some of us are way too scared by our media, but some of us are not scared enough, which is evident by the fact that there are protests going on against the lockdown, and people who think Coronavirus was made by Bill Gates.

So, yes, don't freak out everyone. That won't help anything, but know that it is a problem and we have to do all that we can to beat this thing.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

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WHO has said Covid-19 may never go away. We can't predict the future, it may just mutate itself out of existence, but we need to prepare for the worst case scenario.

As the saying goes, ”If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.”

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

As the saying goes, ”If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.”

Exactly.

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[Zardnaar]

Exactly.

WaPo: Trump allegedly asked Fauci if officials could let coronavirus ‘wash over’ US

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Generation X F the world.


Herd immunity might have to be done the hard way. Wouldn't be my first choice.