D&D and the rising pandemic

[Dannyalcatraz]

Some of the psychological and neurological effects sound as bad as the physical ones.

Demons, spaceships, Pink Floyd: Coronavirus survivor reveals vivid hallucinations and nightmares from 'ICU delirium'

Neurologists are warning that delirium, a common condition in ICUs, may be worse for coronavirus patients. One survivor describes the night he felt convinced he was choking to death.

www.yahoo.com

 

[wicked cool]

Theres no talk about Colorado on this. We have The usual southern states that are bashed here and yet no mention of Colorado which is polar opposite politically and is just as open . Theres no talk that all those bad springbreakers didnt get sick or that the nursing homes in many states were not affected like basically 3 Northeast states (90,340 deaths and 28,302 are from New York) ? Is there any talk that the big box stores get to sell all goods and yet until basically recently or not yet many places cant open? Are we saying that Walmart is more responsible than the small craft store or small bookstore?

The Dutch believe that a Mink may have affected a human and all mink farms are getting mandatory testing and that CATS mya be spreading the(CNN) disease

World Bank group is warning that 60 million people (100 countries) could be pushed into extreme poverty (less than 2 US dollars a day)

 

[Istbor]

Theres no talk about Colorado on this. We have The usual southern states that are bashed here and yet no mention of Colorado which is polar opposite politically and is just as open . Theres no talk that all those bad springbreakers didnt get sick or that the nursing homes in many states were not affected like basically 3 Northeast states (90,340 deaths and 28,302 are from New York) ? Is there any talk that the big box stores get to sell all goods and yet until basically recently or not yet many places cant open? Are we saying that Walmart is more responsible than the small craft store or small bookstore?

The Dutch believe that a Mink may have affected a human and all mink farms are getting mandatory testing and that CATS mya be spreading the(CNN) disease

World Bank group is warning that 60 million people (100 countries) could be pushed into extreme poverty (less than 2 US dollars a day)

So link an article. That no one has talked about it, is due to a lack of someone bringing it up. If you think we are somehow blind to the fact that New York got blasted by this, you are wrong. It is finally quieting down in that state, while the outbreak continues to move West and South. That is just a matter of course for a viral outbreak. To say nothing of policies or politics. They explode in large packed in communities, and through human movement spread out from there.

Yeah. There were a bunch of idiot spring breakers. Not all of them young college students. They were able to go to their typical party locations because nothing was done to prevent that. Too much money at stake.

Hard to talk about mom/pop places vs Walmarts and targets, at least on EnWorld. It is politically charged, and if you have been reading along, you can see that is not acceptable as a topic here.

I am willing to talk about it. Present us a topic, one that preferably won't get us kicked out of thread.

 

[ad_hoc]

Places like Florida and Texas are key to monitor to see the impacts of reopening.

Unfortunately we may not be able to trust the data that they're releasing.

Florida scientist says she was fired for refusing to change Covid-19 data 'to support reopen plan'

Dr Rebekah Jones says she was fired from Department of Health by the governor after protesting order to censor information

www.theguardian.com

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Yeah, it's one thing to cause deaths by opening the state up, but it's a whole other level of terribleness if you hide the numbers of cases/deaths.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Yeah, it's one thing to cause deaths by opening the state up, but it's a whole other level of terribleness if you hide the numbers of cases/deaths.

Which is one of the things many are upset about when China did it,

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Which is one of the things many are upset about when China did it,

There are a few key differences here, though. I'm not defending China, I think they caused a ton of problems and probably could've stopped the disease in its tracks before this pandemic became a problem for other countries, but these are different circumstances. We know how to beat this disease, but the government officials are trying to get us to restart the economy while not telling the truth about how bad the disease is.

 

[ad_hoc]

There are likely a lot of unreported deaths.

In New Jersey, there were about 5,200 excess deaths in the month ending April 11, according to a New York Times analysis, but less than 2,200 reported coronavirus deaths, leaving an unexplained gap of 3,000.

150% more deaths than reported is a huge discrepancy.

Official U.S. coronavirus death toll may be missing many thousands

A confluence of testing shortages, inconsistent death reporting practices and a high concentration of nursing home deaths means the overall fatality number is likely higher.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Yes, at nearly any pandemic we've looked back at in past decades, the amount of deaths from it were significantly higher than our initial estimates.

This will be true for Covid-19. A lot of people who die are never tested for Covid-19 because we don't normally waste tests on dead people, and if they're old and near to dying anyway, there's not much of a point to test them. (It is beneficial to do so if we want to track the disease, but in a lot of cases, it's just not worth it.)

 

[ad_hoc]

Yes, at nearly any pandemic we've looked back at in past decades, the amount of deaths from it were significantly higher than our initial estimates.

This will be true for Covid-19. A lot of people who die are never tested for Covid-19 because we don't normally waste tests on dead people, and if they're old and near to dying anyway, there's not much of a point to test them. (It is beneficial to do so if we want to track the disease, but in a lot of cases, it's just not worth it.)

I wonder if that will be true of Canada.

The death toll here is quite high at 6000 deaths vs 80 000 confirmed cases.

Canada has fallen behind in testing so that could be a cause. Though 80% of all deaths have been in long term care homes so I think those are being accounted for properly, which according to that article is likely a big source of neglected deaths.